Talk:United States Federal Protective Service

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[edit] This is not the place to grind your ax

Please refrain from adding political diatribe to advance your own particular agenda.

"Federal Protective Service is an "incestuous nest of corruption" after officers Peter Taoy and John Haire, as well as supervisor Charles H. Jackson were all convicted in 2005 in the U.S. District Court for the District of Northern California of fabricating incident reports to cover-up their mistreatment of a motorist. They are serving 12-18 month prison terms. Current FPS Administrator Wendell Shingler has refused to take any corrective action against similar incidents by Federal Protective Service officer Louis Mount in Maryland."

"The belligerence and harassment the Federal Protective Service is known for within this job description is second to none other. The FPS is also thought of poorly among the law enforcement community for harassing other local law enforcement officers who enter federal facilities on official business. Local law enforcement officers are asked to leave their loaded weapons in their patrol cars before entering government buildings secured by FPS. FPS has been asked to cooperate with other agencies and stop causing trouble but has thus far in various regions been non compliant."

Would these passages appear in the Encyclopedia Brittanica? Of course not. They do not belong here, either. Statements of opinion, whether or not you have media references, are not acceptable. This is getting ridiculous. Please refer to the Wikipedia editing policies if you can't understand this. "Anyone is welcome to add information, cross-references or citations, as long as they do so within Wikipedia's editing policies and to an appropriate standard."

[edit] capitalization of Federal?

Since when is Federal always capitalized? Unless this is part of the title of something, I don't see it as necessary.

  • it's official title is "the Office of the Federal Protective Service".--Tombombadil 17:07, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

But you don't capitalize "federal" when it's not part of a title. Ex:

"which provides security police services to U.S. Federal buildings"

"on and off of Federal property."

"assigned to protect Federal buildings."

These should all be lowercase.

I concur. The only people who capitalize the word in those contexts are federal employees writing official documents in their capacity as employees. But in non-government documents where it is not part of an agency name, "federal" is usually spelled in lowercase. It's like how the U.S. federal government consistently refers to itself in its own documents as the "U.S. Government" and calls its soldiers "Soldiers." Basically, context is important. --Coolcaesar 19:56, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

AGAIN - it's official title is "the Office of the Federal Protective Service".--Tomtom9041 (talk) 15:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Contradictory statements regarding police powers

From the article:

  • Its personnel have full police powers on and off of Federal property.
  • The Federal Protective Service does not have full police powers off federal property.
Which is it? heqs 09:18, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Both I would think. In terms that if something were to happen on federal property and it carries over onto non-federal land its still with in their realm of control. Though it should be changed to make this distinction. darthimpala 15:30, 3 July 2006 (EST)
  • Clarification of police authority
Under the General Services Administration FPS officers police authority was limited to federal property under Title 40 USC, section 318. With the move to Homeland and ICE both the limit of FPS police authority and the supporting US code were changed to reflect the agency's changing role. Under Title 40 USC, section 1315 (part of the Homeland security act of 2002) the agency was given full police powers on and off federal property as well as authority to enter into agreements with other federal and local law enforcement agencies to pursue non-federal criminal offenses. Souldrinker06 16:56, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why is the FPS part of the ICE?

This part of its job has nothing to do with immigration, customs or borders, so why is the ICE (instead of, say, the FBI, the US Marshals, or a specific agency) in charge of protecting federal buildings? Apokrif 21:57, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

IMHO the FPS should be merged with the not-so Secret Service, or vice versa. --Tomtom9041 (talk) 15:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)