Talk:Uncleftish Beholding

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we should probably find a way to link to Anglish Rob* 07:08, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

The article mentions that 'round' and 'around' are mistakenly used implying they are of Latin, Greek, or Romance orgin. Wiktionary's entry for 'round' has two etymologies: one that traces it to Old French and one that traces it to Old English. Maybe we should mention that 'round' and 'around' could be of Gemanic or Celtic origins but could also be of Romance origin so it could be or not be a mistake to have them there.--SurrealWarrior 10:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

The second etymology is irrelevant, since it is for an entirely different meaning of "round": an archaic verb meaning 'whisper'. That's a different word that happens to look and sound the same, like pants in Put on your pants and The dog pants heavily. The OED's etymology says of this one (round, v²) "The normal modern form would have been rown". So Anderson's uses of the words are definitely not of Germanic origin.

But I'm not sure it's a mistake. The Romance loans totally replaced their Old English equivalents, ymbe (cf. German um) and its derivatives. On this one I don't think P.A. had any choice, and I suspect (without evidence) that he knew it and yielded to the unavoidable. Thnidu (talk) 01:54, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

"Around" or "round" is called "rundt" in Scandinavian languages. Sure it isn't Germanic? After all, both French and English are Indo-European languages. The word may have been unchanged? 85.166.11.196 (talk) 15:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Not sure, but a reliable opinion (OED) says it isn't. After all, the Scandinavian languages have also borrowed from non-Germanic languages. Can you supply data or research to support Germanic origin? Thnidu (talk) 00:38, 8 June 2008 (UTC)