Talk:UN/LOCODE

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For easier linking from outside to WP there have been established redirects. They have the form UN/LOCODE/XXXXX e.g. UN/LOCODE:USNYC.

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People who worked on the two proposals:

Tobias Conradi , Ram-Man

[edit] Users that add UN/LOCODEs

[edit] Proposal 1: UN/LOCODE on city pages

Where to put it?

  • if there is a table put it in the table.
UN/LOCODE: USLAX

Put a shortcut sign on every page?

  • people could think this is ugly
  • people that know UN/LOCODE will maybe try typing the UN/LOCODE, they do not need shortcut hint

[edit] Proposal 2: Redirect from UN/LOCODE-standard-link to city page

Shortcut:
UN/LOCODE:USLAX
Shortcut:
LOC:USLAX
Shortcut:
GEO:USLAX
Shortcut:
USLAX
  • with standardized links, other pages from outside can easier link to wikipedia
  • with shortcuts people that know the UN/LOCODE can faster get to an article

[edit] Design of standard links

see also: Geocode

name / shortcut / resume / vote pros cons
FULL

UN/LOCODE:USLAX

 exactest, no conflicts, promotes the origen of the code, no need for further explanation, system of mentioning the codebase can be used for other standards to implement standard links, possibility to publish info about the Locodes for one country e.g.: UN/LOCODE:US (similiar to ISO 3166-2:US) longest, no shortcut-msg possible on city page
LOCODE

LOCODE:USLAX

 shorter, no slash
LOC

LOC:USLAX

 is SHORTcut, possible use for other codes,
  1. country codes LOC:DE, existing: ISO_3166-1:DE
  2. subcountry codes
  3. latitude / longitude (database driven answers)
 use for other codes has conflicts because of different 2-letter country codes and different subcountry codes systems
GEO

GEO:USLAX

 same as LOC but sounds more like geography, can be used in other language wikipedia, because "geo" exist in a lot of languages. same as loc
DIRECT

USLAX whatever you do else, there is no problem to add this kind of redirects. Supported by Tobias Conradi

 shortest, no conflict with general wikipedia-style
  • possible interference with other abbreviations, for those cases disambiguation is needed -> shortcut not allways working
  • other sciences than geography might also like to insert 5-letter-redirects, than the shortcut-function decreases.

[edit] Which locations to standard-link / shortcut

[edit] Templates

[edit] Progress

Start with

  • US cities,
    • wikipedia-naming for US should be unambigous
    • only link what is in Rambot-Database
  • Cities of english speaking countries
    • less problem to find the right redirect target
  • Capital cities


[edit] Credit to Consumerium

If I checked the facts correctly (please bash me if I didn't), the article moved from Consumerium to WP consisted of one paragraph, and the main substance of the WP article has been added after that. I would not say, therefore, that the article "is" adapted, but that it once "was" adapted, and modified since. Moreover, I feel that crediting Consumerium with a phrase about as long as the content originally moved is less about giving due credit that about promoting Consumerium and its POV. Therefore, I propose to modify or eliminate this phrase. What does the community feel about this? --DrTorstenHenning 08:50, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Consumerium can only be two sentences: [1] I removed the credit. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 08:41, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 2007 marked for deletion

X  CA      TOQ     Toquart Bay     Toquart Bay     BC      1-------        XX      0701                    Does not qualify
X       CL      CAL     Caleta Patillos Caleta Patillos TA      1-------        XX      0701            2045S 07011W    cf CL PTI
X       CL      GUR     Isla Guarello   Isla Guarello   MA      1-------        XX      0701            5240S 07341W    cf CL ISG
X       CM      VCC     Victoria        Victoria                1-------        XX      0701                    Cf CM LIM
X       CY      MPB     Morphou Bay     Morphou Bay          1-------        XX      0701                    Does not qualify
X       CZ      KLY     Klatovy Klatovy           --3-----        XX      0701            4923N 01317E    Cf CZ KTV
X       CZ      OVO     Ostrov nad Ohri Ostrov nad Ohri          --3-----        XX      0701            5017N 01256E    Cf CZ ONO
X       CZ      SLN     Slaný   Slany             --3-----        XX      0701            5013N 01405E    Cf CZ SLY
X       DE      PRS     Prisdorf        Prisdorf        BE      --3-----        XX      0701                    
X       FJ      ELL     Ellington       Ellington             1-------        XX      0701                    
X       FJ      VUD     Vuda    Vuda            1-------        XX      0701                    
X       FR      SAG     St Aignan       St Aignan            --3-----        XX      0701                    
X       FR      JAG     St Jean-d'Angély        St Jean-d'Angely        17      --3-----        XX      0701            4557N 00031W    cf FR SJY
X       IQ      ABL     Arbil   Arbil         0-------        XX      0701            3611N 04401E    
X       JP      NGY     Nagoya, Oita    Nagoya, Oita    44      1-------        XX      0701                    
X       KR      ANS     Ansung  Ansung  41      --3-----        XX      0701                    cf KR ASG
X       NI      PSZ     Puerto Somoza   Puerto Somoza                1-3--6--        XX      0701            1211N 08645W    Cf NI PSN
X       NL      HE      Hengevelde      Hengevelde              --3-----        XX      0701            5212N 00638E    Cf NL HEV
X       PK      WAG     Wagha   Wagha           --3-----        XX      0701            2917N 06744E    
X       PL      NFW     Neufahrwasser   Neufahrwasser           1-------        XX      0701                    Cf PL NOW
X       PL      WMA     Wysokie Mazowieckie     Wysokie Mazowieckie          --3-----        XX      0701            5254N 02230E    duplicate entry cf PL WYM
X       SE      MLY     Moelnlycke      Moelnlycke      O       --3--6--        XX      0701            5738N 01209E    Duplicates SE MOE
X       US      PVS     Port Everglades Port Everglades      FL      --34----        XX      0701            2605N 08007W    duplicate cf US PEF
X       US      PSY     Port Sulphur    Port Sulphur   LA      123-----        XX      0701            2928N 08941W    Duplicate entry with USSUL  —Preceding unsigned comment added by UnLoCode (talk • contribs) 22:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)