Talk:U.S. Open Chess Championship
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[edit] Need history and winners from 1967 to today
The source I used was printed in 1967. It does a pretty good job of covering the first 68 years of the tournament, but the article needs info for the last 40 years. Some of this is probably available on the internet, but I haven't checked yet. Quale 04:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tie-breaks?
A question came up about the 1973 tournament. According to several sources, Duncan Suttles scored 10 to share first place. In fact it was a five-way tie for first which Raymond Weinstein won on tie-break, even though Suttles beat him in their individual game. Chess Life & Review, October 1973, p. 556, "Record U.S. Open in Chicago: Norman Weinstein Wins on Tiebreak". Tied at 10 points were Weinstein, Suttles, Walter Browne, Greg DeFotis (Illinois), and Ruben Rodriguez (Philippines). Each earned $1080, which must be a five-way split of the total of first through fifth place prizes and accounts for more than half of the total $10,000 prize fund. Weinstein won the tiebreak, and the article comments that he faced by far the toughest competition, playing six of the seven top-ranked players in the tournament. (Aside from Weinstein, Suttles, and Browne, the only other player in the top 13 who I recognize is William Lombardy, placing 6–13 with 9½. The special prizes rewarded some players lower in the table. One of the eight players tied with Lombardy at 9½, Thomas Wozney (Ohio), collected $500 to Lombardy's $162.50 because he won the Expert 1st prize. Yasser Seirawan won the premier section with 8½ to collect $350, also out-earning Lombardy.) Suttles must certainly have been the moral victor, as he beat both Weinstein and Browne in their individual games, including a dramatic win over tournament leader Browne in the final round to claim a share of first. Since the "official" source (or at least the 2006 USCF Yearbook cited in the article lists only Weinstein as the winner I've removed Suttles from 1973. I don't know how to resolve the apparent contradiction that for some years several winners are listed (were ties not broken for those years for some reason?) and yet for others they are. I hope to add a little detail about as many of the years (a single short paragraph) as I can. Maybe that will uncover other years where there were ties that aren't reported in the list that the USCF compiled. I think it would be good in tournament winners tables to indicate which wins were on tie-break. (Ken Whyld uses an * in his tables to indicate a win on tie-break, usually giving only the name of the winner.) Unfortunately we have to be careful if we don't have complete information. It would be a mistake to mark Weinstein's win as being on tie-break unless we can mark all of the wins on tie-break. If one tie-break win is marked, the reader will naturally expect that all tie-break wins are marked. Quale (talk) 23:51, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
