Portal talk:U.S. Roads

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[edit] 2580 articles

Is that number still correct? I was managing stubs yesterday and we might have more than that. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 20:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't be shocked if the actual number is now double that figure, honestly. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 04:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Headline of the netherlands motorways are all wrong

Because there is no portal for roads but only for US roads, I want to ask here: I would be thankful, if the road specialists could have a look here: Portal talk:Transport#Headline of the netherlands motorways are all wrong Thank you -- 84.132.101.93 10:18, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. Roads or North American Roads

In the early morning of September 21, I moved this page to Portal:North American Roads and enlarged the scope. (The portal currently reflects the expansion, despite the name.) My thought process was sparked by Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads#Possible "news" page?, where I was told that the portal needed a "steady maintainer". With the interconnectedness of North American roads, it seemed like a logical move. As other editors (presumably) woke up, they objected, and Rschen7754 started moving pages back in preparation to split. That explains the present state, left as a "compromise" to stop the threat of an edit war. --NE2 23:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

There seem to be three options:

  1. Change it back to U.S. Roads
  2. Keep it changed to North American Roads
  3. Split it into two portals

Please discuss the benefits and drawbacks of each below:

[edit] U.S. Roads only

Advantages
  • Status quo
  • More of a focus can be placed on U.S. Roads
  • Portal was adequately maintained by one familiar with the subject
Disadvantages

[edit] North American Roads only

Advantages
  1. Expands the scope so more people may be interested in helping
  2. Combines interconnected road systems
  3. Encourages improvement of Mexican and Canadian road articles
  • This would happen under the third proposal as well...
    • Not as much, especially if nobody cares to maintain a largely duplicate portal... --NE2 00:16, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
      • Why? Because CRWP would be piggybacking off the publicity of USRD? --Rschen7754 (T C) 00:19, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
        • This has nothing to do with projects. Portals are about subjects. --NE2 00:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Unless of course, consensus decided that it is time to elect a Project Lead team (ala WP:MilHist's example). Either just for CRWP or the entire portal project. Is that a "road worth traveling"? Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 14:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Disadvantages
  1. Groups the "crappy" Canadian Roads WikiProject with the supposedly better U.S. Roads WikiProject
  2. There are less than 20 Mexican road articles
  • But it would create 'CookieTemplates' for them to draw ideas from when they do get larger

[edit] Both portals

Advantages
  • Supposedly a compromise
  • Compromise to what? master sonT - C 00:32, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Between U.S. roads only and North American roads only. --NE2 00:42, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Disadvantages
  • Splits effort among two portals, when one was apparently not being maintained well
  • I'm curious as to what's wrong with it that its not being maintained master sonT - C 00:32, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
  • I echo Master_son's comments. The portal was maintained on a regular basis. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 02:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
    • So Scott5114 misspoke on WT:USRD? --NE2 02:43, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
      • I believe so, TMF did keep the portal maintained. --Rschen7754 (T C) 02:45, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
        • So should I start the "news" page? I have no interest in running a duplicate portal. (To avoid misunderstandings, I'm not saying I support moving it back; I'm just asking what the "USRD collective" thinks.) --NE2 02:47, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

  • Go back to U.S. Roads only. I could support two portals, but under no circumstances should the USRD portal be merged into the NA portal. --Rschen7754 (T C) 00:03, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
  • My preference: retain the U.S. road one, then create a generic road portal if necessary. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 02:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
  • I saw no problems with the portal the way it was as the USRD portal. I think it should be moved back. -- JA10 Talk • Contribs 22:39, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
  • It should remain as is - if someone wants to start a Portal:Canadian Roads I'm fine with that. But NA roads seems kind of silly. There's not even a NA Roads project. --Son 13:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep P:USRD as-is, since it seems clear that nobody likes the NA Roads idea. I'm all for a world roads (highways) portal, since there are hell lot more roads in the world, especially Canada and China. —O (说 • 喝) 23:18, 24 September 2007 (GMT)
  • This portal never had any problems as it is - by renaming it - it becomes more prone to problems - and the portal's scope was well established already. Why fix something that isn't broken. That said - if CRWP wants a portal - they can create one. This one shall stay as is master sonT - C 03:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
    • clarification - this one shall be U.S. Roads master sonT - C 02:14, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
  • I've created Portal:Roads yesterday, with a scope set on roads around the world. This would be a child portal under the Roads portal. Comments? —O (说 • 喝) 00:05, 28 September 2007 (GMT)

I think that consensus should be pretty clear now. I'll move the portal over the next few days. --Rschen7754 (T C) 00:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)