Talk:Tsipouro
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[edit] Flavored?
Is Tsipouro flavored with anise or any other flavor(s)? Badagnani 02:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- As far as I know no. I removed the corresponding category. --Kupirijo 02:14, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
These look like anise tsipouro to me! http://www.nestorimports.com/domaine_costa_lazaridi/idoniko/idoniko_anise.htm http://www.greekwines.com/spirits.htm Badagnani 02:29, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
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- That's not traditional! If you find more than one company it would be interesting. This pertains to this company only. I would be reluctant to say that tsipouro is anise flavored. When we say tsipouro in Greece we mean pomace distillate. --Kupirijo 02:39, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
So it would, then, be equivalent to flavored vodka -- a flavored liquor. The info should be added to the tsipouro article as well as the flavored liquor article. Badagnani 03:22, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- But that is rare. It only happens with the brand you showed me. I wouldn't even bother, otherwise you will be adding a commercial link, promoting that brand. --Kupirijo 03:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Two more links: http://www.greekwinemakers.com/czone/winemakers/Tsantalis.shtml http://www.filistron.com/menu-pota-eng.htm Badagnani 03:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm only promoting knowledge and completeness, not any brand. Badagnani 03:35, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
This one says it can have anise: http://kosisland.info/news.asp?ItemID=264&pcid=63&cid=64&archive=yes Badagnani 03:36, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
This is another producer: http://www.wineroads.gr/en/sponsorDetails.asp?spID=93 Badagnani 03:36, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- OK. You win. Just make sure you distinguish between Tsipouro and Flavored Tsipouro. We do not people to confuse it with ouzo. --Kupirijo 03:39, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Where does http://kosisland.info/news.asp?ItemID=264&pcid=63&cid=64&archive=yes say it can have anise? --Kupirijo 03:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- It says:
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- "Tsipouro and tsikoudia are considered variants of ouzo, produced by a similar process but often without anise flavouring and often tastes similar to the Italian spirit grappa."
To me, if tsipouro can "often" be "without" anise flavoring, then it can sometimes have it. But, as you say, it's usually historically been considered a "raw" spirit like vodka, moonshine, or poitín. So the flavored version must then be a borrowing from ouzo, arak, or raki. At least it deserves a mention. Badagnani 03:48, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Agreed. Good job. --Kupirijo 03:58, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Maybe this is a regional difference, but all the tsipouro I've ever had in Makedonia has been at least somewhat anise-flavored; that includes both homemade tsipouro and commercial (e.g. Tsantali). Greekwinemakers.com seems to agree ("...Tsipouro, a traditional Makedonian product which Americans would describe as grappa with anise.") --Delirium 15:52, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Name
Can we get the etymology of this word? Does "tsipouro" have a meaning that has something to do with its production or source, like "moonshine"? Badagnani 03:50, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Its etymology is not certain. Apparently "tsipoura" means "pomace", but the word is of tatar origin ("sepre"). In ancient Greek, pomace is called "stemphyla" which is not considered the root of "tsipouro". In cypriot greek it is pronounced "tsippouro". The "pp" indicates a turkish/tatar origin but one can also say it is the assimilation of "m" in "mph" to "pp". --Kupirijo 04:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the expert answer. Can this be added to the article? Even if unconfirmed/controversial, it's still instructive for non-Greek-speaking readers. Badagnani 04:24, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Me grandfather is making it like his grand father doing it and it is flavored with anise every single time...they use like 1-2 kilos anise for a a 150 litres of grapes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.74.242.23 (talk) 21:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
