Talk:Truism

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BULL SHIT —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.233.4 (talk) 03:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Contents 1 Deletion, Creation, Undeletion, Merge (December 2003) 2 Prevention is better than cure 3 This truiism... 4 9th and 10th amendments as examples of truisms 5 Anthropic principle

[edit] Deletion, Creation, Undeletion, Merge (December 2003)

At the beginning of December, this article was deleted without due process. On 00:27, 7 Dec 2003, S1rkull, recreated it, apparently without knowing the history. Brion restored the Page history. The next step is to merge the deleted version with S1rkull's contribution.Peak 08:00, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I guess it's a '[truism]' that you can't fight city hall. If "truism" is not just a word but a worthy topic in itself, I guess there should be an article about it. Personally, I just thought it's a word and should be in the Wikitionary. But maybe the concept itself is worthy of deeper description than a mere dictionary definition. I guess it's a *gasp* stub!!! --Uncle Ed 15:05, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Prevention is better than cure

Question: How can a phrase that includes "better" be a truism? Better at what? Cure may be cheaper than prevention... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.143.228 (talk • contribs)

You're right. It's not a trusim and it's not even (always) true. It has been removed now. —Pengo 12:41, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This truiism...

... rings true. -- Chris 18:52, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

The words "cliché" and "truism" appear as synonyms in some references, e.g. an online thesaurus. But I seem to remember that a cliché refers to a word, phrase or idea, while a truism is more often an entire proposition or sentence. Any comments?

[edit] 9th and 10th amendments as examples of truisms

Whether or not the 9th and 10th amendments are truisms is actually a highly contested. Since the 1990s, the current conservative courts have revived the 10th amendment as an independent limit on federal power, and thus it is no longer a truism. Since no one seems to have discussed anything on this page for a couple of years I am going to go ahead and remove that section. I would propose as an alternative example something along the lines of "God is good" as God is by definition good. Any other suggestions? Drv208 (talk) 02:38, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anthropic principle

I'm somewhat confused by the wording of "some versions of the anthropic principle". I know that philosophers battle over whether it is a truism, and I do note that the article does not state that all versions are, but perhaps whoever included it ought to reword it to specify "which versions" are truisms, or perhaps delete the sentence altogether. CopaceticThought (talk) 07:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)