Talk:Tropical Storm Alma (2008)

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[edit] Alma is not the first tropical cyclone, let alone the first TS, to strike Central America from the Pacific side

At the very least, storm 10 of 1949 did so. Paul in 1982 did so as a TD in southern Mexico, depending on where you think Central America lies. There are others that have as well. The mistake surprises me. Some of the issue might lie in the fact that Atlantic Storm 10 of 1949 (which apparently killed 40000 people and appears to be the most deadly tropical cyclone impact in the history of the western hemisphere) is not listed in the eastern Pacific database. I've e-mailed Eric Blake about it, since he's also involved in the reanalysis of the eastern Pacific version of HURDAT. Thegreatdr (talk) 21:31, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The article never said that Alma was the first tropical cyclone to strike Central America from the Pacific side; it only said first TS, which was based on the NHC discussion. However, given the example you provided, I'm fine with having that removed. Let us know what you find out. Also, a user mentioned on my talk page that Simone in 1968 made landfall in Central America as a tropical storm, so clearly the NHC didn't do their research. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:04, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I mentioned Hattie/Simone/Inga (1961) to Eric as well. My guess is that they don't consider southern Mexico as central America. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Plane crash

[1]. Shall we list these are direct deaths or indirect deaths, or wait? Hurricane Angel Saki My own personal NHC 03:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Based on the description, they would be best classified as indirect deaths. Alma's rain appeared to be responsible but it did not happen as a direct result of the storm. CrazyC83 (talk) 03:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Update

The remnants of Tropical Strom Alma became Tropical Storm Arthur in the Western Caribbean Sea. I will be noting this.--Lionheart Omega (talk) 18:15, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] More deaths to add

  • [2] 3 dead in Nicaragua, 10 missing.
  • [3] Possibly another source to back the former up. A girl died near the border, and two people were killed by power lines.
  • [4] Death toll from the plane crash up to 7.
  • [5] No reference of the girl, but mentions the two electrocutions and a death in a car crash.

(Just adding more news. I mostly work on the older articles, plus my current events editting is kind of bleh.) Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 19:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How about...

Why don't we merge the two systems (Alma and Arthur) together? Do they not belong in one article? Weatherlover819 (talk) 09:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

That's a good question. I personally don't think so, Alma wasn't really the same system, but just a supplier of tropical convection. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 12:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
No. Alma dissipated over Central America, then its remnants combined with a monsoon trough created Arthur. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 12:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] track map

Not again, could someone please upload a better track map for Alma? Storm05 (talk) 11:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)