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[edit] Diacritic Mark

Shouldn't the title of the article be Troödon, not Troodon? I just created a redirect from Troödon, so it's a valid Wikipedia name. 68.81.231.127 15:38, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The official name is Troodon, not Troödon. Latin doesn't have a "ö". However, whatever prevents the anglophonic pronunciation of "Truedon" is a blessing to the world. ;o).

MWAK--84.27.81.59 22:41, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Correct Latin isn't necessarily, well, correct ;) ... but I did find a useful cite: Per Olshevsky's Dinosaurs of North America, it's Troodon Leidy, 1856 emend. Sauvage, 1876. Troödon is an outdated misspelling. 68.81.231.127 02:56, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Yes, invaluable man that Dinogeorge that! :o) But you see how it works? The mere fact that a single publication after the incorrect original (and thus at first nevertheless official) "Troödon" uses the correct "Troodon" makes the latter name the official one! No explicit emendation is necessary.

MWAK--84.27.81.59 09:42, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Perhaps it is useful to add that rule 32.5.2 of the ICZN code forbids the use of any diacritic sign.

MWAK--84.27.81.59 09:43, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Teeth Only?

The article says that this species is known only from its teeth, but it gives detailed information about Troodon's eyes and thumbs. Something must be inaccurate here.

Problem comes from the Troodon vs. Stenonychosaurus issue. If they are seperate, Troodon is (probably) known only from teeth. If Troodon = Stenonychosaurus, better skeletons are known.Dinoguy2 23:44, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Even more to the point, the article directly contradicts intself; claiming remains other than teeth, including nests and eggs. Troodon was one of the early names that Leidy applied to teeth and for over a century that was all that known about it (even to the point of the name being re-used for a pachycephalosaur now called Stegoceras). Then in 1978 John Horner attributed some of his finds to it, and these included whole skeletons and eggs. CFLeon 22:25, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving?

Can I move this too Troödon Elmo125.467/891.011.121.415.164.057.984.887.982.481.215.470.890.199.919.652.468.Yay 20:43, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

No. "Troödon" is an old-fashioned spelling. Modern rules do not allow the use of special letters like "ö", and the spelling was changed quite a while ago.Dinoguy2 00:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Also, links using diacritic marks do not work. CFLeon 22:25, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Species of Troodon

Olshevsky (1991) has assigned Pectinodon bakkeri to the genus Troodon, thus Troodon bakkeri (Carpenter, 1982) n. comb. Whether his consideration of Pectinodon to be a species of Troodon is accepted remains to be seen, but the long time range of Troodon suggests that more than one species of Troodon. Besides T. formosus and T. bakkeri, there is a third species of Troodon, T. inequalis (Sternberg, 1932), as recognized by Russell (1969), who placed Polyodontosaurus grandis in synonymy with T. inequalis. Because Polyodontosaurus was found in the same formation as Stenonychosaurus, it is a junior synonym of the latter species.

For these reasons, Troodon bakkeri and T. inequalis (Polyodontosaurus is a synonym) should be added to the Taxobox under species.

Olshevsky, 1991. A Revision of the Parainfraclass Archosauria Cope, 1869, Excluding the Advanced Crocodylia. Mesozoic Meanderings #2 (1st printing): iv + 196 pp.

D. A. Russell. 1969. A new specimen of Stenonychosaurus from the Oldman Formation (Cretaceous) of Alberta. Canadian Journal of Earth Sciences 6:595-612. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.194.116.63 (talk) 04:26, 21 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Star Trek

About the Star Trek thing in pop culture--I haven't actually seen this, so I could be wrong, but on Hadrosaurus and Voth (the article about this star trek race), there's no mention of Troodon, Parasaurolophus, or "dinosauroids". The Hadrosaurus entry states they were Hadrosaurus, nd since this one specifies Parasaurolophus, I'm guessing it was not specified what kind of intelligent hadrosaur they were, and all these possibilities are original research, as is linking them to Russell's dinosauroid. It therefore, unless somebody comes in to correct me on this, doesn't have a place in any pop culture section but maybe Hadrosauridae. Dinoguy2 05:24, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Little more checking up on this, at hte Star Trek wiki.[1][2] Apparently, according to the show, the Voth evolved from "hadrosaurs" (looks like a Parasaurolophus to me), they and humans shared a common dinosaurian ancestor, which in turn evolved from Eryops. I think the writers of Star Trek need to give up the pretence of using the word "science" in science fiction... ::) Dinoguy2 05:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the correction, with explanation. The whole thing sounds odd, and I couldn't make heads or tails of it. Firsfron of Ronchester 07:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What's a skull capsule?

Someone's just added a bit about Troodon having a skull capsule, the same as "ostrich dinosaurs". What's a "skull capsule"? Also, I have a feeling ostrich mimic was the phrase that was meant, although I think it's too informal. Firsfron of Ronchester 21:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe they mean the braincase is similar? Anyway, any actual relationship with ornithomimids has been pretty well disproven. Dinoguy2 00:44, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeh it must mean that, I pretty much copied the phrase used in the book, you can edit it if you want, another thing the book doesn't make the claim that ornithomimids were related and has pretty much the same classification. ([[User:Giani g|Giani g]] 12:20, 20 May 2007 (UTC))

[edit] What other dinosaur Troodon ate

Troodon ate the Velociraptor. The Troodon will circle around the Velociraptor. They will attack with their sickle claws. The Velociraptor had claws like those and a vicious battle began. Soon,the encounter was over and the Troodon will now enjoy some Velociraptor meat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.36.69.139 (talk) 19:53, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Interesting scenario, but those two animals did not live in the same time or place. ;) Dinoguy2 (talk) 00:54, 5 May 2008 (UTC)