Talk:Triumph Stag
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[edit] Popular culture
I have a book of scripts for the Lock, Stock... TV series, which mentions one of the characters as owning a Stag. I also seem to remember several scenes where his car breaks down or won't start. But it's been a long time since 1999, i'll have to check if he really does have one on the DVD one day. 82.153.230.130 23:49, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
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Greetings,
I have modified this Wiki for the Triumph Stag (originally created by someone else) based on my own knowledge, discussions with and reading various published interview articles with Harry Webster, Ray Bates, John Macartney, Robin Penrose, Graham Robson and other Ex-Triumph personalities who "were there", coupled with references of factory produced manuals and third party publications which may be accurate or not. Terminology and English language differences between England and other English speaking parts of the world may have caused some misunderstandings and misconceptions over the years.
Such as "the Rover just did not fit". From several stories I was told, this was actually meaning that it "just did not fit into the production number requirements and schedules" as claimed by some, not that it did not fit into the engine bay. Some also say the fit issue was a hoax played on the higher up Rover management who were insisting on dropping the Triumph V8. However, it has been pointed out by those Ex-Triumph engineers who were there and as described in interview articles were directly involved in the designs, that the engine bay would have required modification to install a Rover 3.5 V8. Modifications to what extent?
Anyway, those are my understandings of what was being told. It could very well be I am also mistaken by my own understanding of those stories and articles, or maybe missed something in translation - or body language perhaps? All of the "It did not fit" stories I have personally heard from those who were there, well I think I detected a bit of tomfoolery along with recognition of the sparkling glint in the eye and a slight sheepish grin. That was of course, Mr. Webster. Those of you who know him know exactly what I am talking about.
I suppose we may never know the real stories or reasons, but we know today that the Rover V8 does indeed fit with no engine bay modification using a few simple brackets and spacers. We also know from these same interviews that there was tremendous "brand loyalty" between Triumph and Rover. So, not fitting could very well be not fitting due to these intra company rivalies. We also know that Rover was selling every V8 they could produce in the early 1970's, that supply was indeed an issue. I suppose it is an issue of having to read between the lines of both text and sparkle in the eye.
The fact is, Triumph just did not complile historical data in certain and sufficient detail on its cars to be able to tell it all like it was. Most everyone agrees that information is not really available. Even those who were there admit that their recollection may be a bit faded by time over what actually happened in the mid to late 1960's. So I hope to see more high quality interviews published with those remaining Ex-Triumph people so this valuable information is not lost forever.
So lets have at it, add your information. Try to keep things factual with footnote references to note where the information came from and when.
Cheers!
StagByTriumph 03:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] V8
Did all stags have a V8, because I've read that some early stags had the slant-4. // Liftarn (talk)
