Talk:Triple H/Archive 2

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Possible Wikipedia Glitch?

Okay. So I clicked into Wikipedia and typed in Triple H, right? Suddenly it brings me to a page titled "Triple H" except it has William Jason (Jay) Reso instead. It didn't appear to have been moved, it just did it. I clicked off of it and came back a few times to the same effect. Finally when I clicked a link to it through google it brought me to the RIGHT Triple H page. After that it worked right no matter how I accessed it. Just thought I'd tell everyone this if they ever face the same issue. Mushrambo 00:57, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like redirect vandalism to me. It shouldn't happen again to anyone. Cheers, -- T H L 04:25, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Authority Figure

Should HHH be listed as an Authority Figure of Wrestling? He does control like 80% of The WWE.AD Double J 07:38, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

He doesn't hold any power officially. He may influence decisions as a voice in his wife's ear, but officially any company decision comes from one of the other McMahon family members. Of course, any influence he may hold isn't acknowledged, so the only thing that we can say, and have said in the controversy section, is that he is married to Stephanie, and is accused of using this to affect storyline decisions in his favor. Cheers, -- The Hyb rid 07:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Which pretty much proves that he has inside power. -- Mikedk9109 (hit me up) 21:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Because there's no actual proof he has the power, that's proof of just how powerful he is. Outstanding reasoning Mikedk9109. BoosterBronze 17:39, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I think that he was agreeing with me that what we already have in the controversy section is enough. He was saying that we can let the facts speak for themselves rather than try and explain everything. -- The Hyb rid 17:44, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I see. I apologize if I misread that. Perhaps my snark was uncalled for. BoosterBronze 02:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Kayfabe?

Isn't it quite possible with the irony of the injury just sustained that it is all kayfabe and just a useful method of ending the DX reunion (already aknowledged to be a temporary reunion anyhow) and allow time for Paul to help raise his new child? It all seems too coincidental that he would get six months for "recovery" (his first actual quad tear took him 8 months to rehab)? After all, six months has been the standard time for a performer's extended break time with a kayfabe excuse. I'm just not sure that the quad injury should be taken completely seriously just yet although it is also realistic that the injury could be real. It is just that when it comes to sports entertainment, it is really difficult to tell what is real and what isn't and how to appropriately articulate it given the circumstances. RabidPanda V 03:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

The first one was a full quad tear while this one is only one of four tendons. DXRAW 04:07, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

If a reliable source says that it is a kayfabe injury, then we will say so in the article. Until then it amounts to rumor and speculation, which is inherently unencyclopedic. -- The Hyb rid 11:12, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough... that's all I was really looking for. Thanks! RabidPanda V 14:44, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I highly doubt it would be kayfabe, I mean Superstars tend to have a history of repeatidly injury certain area's of their body, especially after a few years when they become complacent of possible injury. Plus do you have a source on the D-X reunion only being temporary, because from all accounts I've heard and seen Triple H, wanted to turn face and remain that way for the rest of his active wrestling career. The Legendary One 23:45, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

That is a little forumish. -- The Hyb rid 23:48, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

"Forumish?" That's sort of the purpose of the discussion page... discussion and forum are rather similar concepts, wouldn't you agree? RabidPanda V 05:23, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

See WP:TALK. "Talk pages are for discussing ways to improve the article, not general discussion of the article's subject." What the Legendary One said was borderline, so I was just interjecting in case a debate about the injuries was going to start. -- The Hyb rid 10:19, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Understood... I wasn't sure where you were going with that. Don't worry, I wasn't planning on going there. I've seen too many times these discussion pages turning into forums for heated debates. I had no intention of going near that line. RabidPanda V 00:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Wonderful. That is really one of my pet peeves; mostly because they never solve anything when they take place. -- The Hyb rid

Yeah it was my bad I was like really tired when I did it so my apologies The Legendary One 02:50, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't be. As I said it was borderline, and I know what it is like to edit when you are tired. I pissed off a good number of people, mostly admins, when I was editing while I had pneumonia. Don't worry about it, as it is really no big deal. Really. Cheers, -- The Hyb rid 04:50, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

They showed HHH actually receiving surgery on the 1/15/07 edition of Raw.

Source for how long he is going to be out?

Shouldn't you list the source for how long he is going to be out? It would be helpful--The Showster 15:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I watched A.M. RAW last night and on the bottom news screen it said Triple H will be out for 4-6 months.--[jonrev] 18:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

And on Raw itself J.R. said the same thing. -- The Hyb rid 20:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

and wwe.com says/said it too User:wrestlingfan4life

Your "source" should be the common sense of knowing that's how long it takes to heal a torn quad. VelvetKevorkian 23:03, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

You should read Wikipedia policy before telling us what our sources should be. Besides, common sense says that everyone will take a different amount of time to heal from injuries, so there is no such thing as common sense when it comes to predicting that. -- The Hyb rid 07:59, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

He'll probably be out until Summerslam. Anyway, he will probably became WWE Champion as soon as he comes back. But htis injury is both a blessing and a curse. The blessing part is that he can be with his daughter and wife. The curse is that he cannot do the job that he so much loves to do and cannot see his friends. I know what that feeling is like. Big Boss 0 03:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Ya, SummerSlam sounds about right for an injury of the magnitude he suffered. He also stated he expects to return around SummerSlam in an interview with WWE.com.Killswitch Engage 05:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I think we all can agree on this. Should we put it in the article? Big Boss 0 14:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

You shouldn't put it in the article because at this point everyone is speculating, even Triple H himself. Until a firm return date is announced by WWE (either by WWE.com or on it's programming) nothing about a return date should go into the article. Bmg916 ^{Speak to Me} 16:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Who is messing around with his biography?

I am wondering, eho is messing around with Triple H's biography? For a minute, it was there and then I went to use the back button and then the foward button and it said Triple H sucks, and then all of a sudden, it's back on. Who is doing this?LindsieandLance 05:45, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandals like to delete whole articles, but that sort of thing is quickly caught and fixed by other editors. --clpo13 05:52, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Spinebuster

I am changing his "Rolling Spinebuster" to just spinebuster. It is not a rolling spinebuster as this would imply that he picks them up and does another spinebuster (i.e. Rolling Germans). I'm assuming it was named "rolling" because of the spin around action he does but that is how the original spinebuster was performed. Thanks. 222.153.6.21 05:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Relationship with Stephanie

There should be a section detailing his relationship with Stephanie McMahon. When they started dating in relation to when he became champion should be included. Lengthy title reigns in relation to his marriage to the bosses daughter.

No, there shouldn't. A section like that would violate WP:OR, WP:NPOV, and potentially

WP:CITE. Bmg916 ^{Speak to Me} 19:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I'm surprised the article doesn't include a "Personal Life" section. Most celebrity articles have a section devoted to behind-the-scenes verifiable information about the person's personal life, such as who they're married to, how many kids they have, personal hobbies and interests and charity work. I would recommend, if possible, creating such a section for this article. It would help readers differentiate the character of Triple-H from the actor Paul Levesque who plays him. (And, of course, this is the section that would include a sentence that says he is married in real life to Stephanie McMahon).

That being said, I do agree that it would be irresponsible to create a section intended to speculate on the possibility that he got his title because he "married the boss' daughter". That's basically just gossip mongering. So mention his marraige but don't use unreferenced rumors about his love life or nepotism in the business, etc. Dugwiki 22:24, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Along those lines a bit for the trivia section would be that Triple H was the victim of a practical joke at the hands of Stephanie McMahon on the television show Punk'd a while back. In it they set him up to make him think he accidentally broke a bride's nose while forcing open a door, after which the groom started picking a fight with him. The only reason I mention the episode is that it's one of those rare instances of a television program breaking kayfabe and treating Stephanie and Triple H as a real-life married couple. For that alone the episode is probably worth a one sentence mention in the trivia section. You just need to find the appropriate episode number and air date for citation. Dugwiki 22:31, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Personal life section added. I copied it out of an old version of this page. Add any material that you all think needs to be. Peace, -- The Hyb rid 22:59, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Hybrid. I reformatted the section you added into paragraph form since the style guidelines normally recommends paragraphs over bullet point lists (information usually sounds a little more encyclopedic in paragraph form). I also renamed the section "Beyond professional wrestling", since most of the information isn't really about his "personal life" per se, but is rather about his professional life outside of wrestling. Finally, I added a tag requesting references for the section. I'm sure all the information there is verifiable - it just needs to have the appropriate footnotes added to clean it up. Dugwiki 15:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Incorporated the Trivia section into the main article

FYI I moved the individual bullet points in the Trivia section into the main article per recommendations in WP:TRIVIA (it's better to incorporate facts in the main article then to use a bullet point list for miscellany). I also removed the "trivia" that he is right-handed, since most people are and it wasn't clear why the fact he is right-handed is at all interesting to the reader (ie it's "not even trivia" to be right-handed). Dugwiki 15:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes it is. It's part of his bio. info. Zerorules677 9:14, 05 April 2007 (UTC)

That sounds like circular reasoning to me. "It's in his bio because it's interesting. And the reason it's interesting is because it's in his bio." Why, exactly, is it interesting or worthwhile to note that he is right-handed? Dugwiki 17:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Why is it important that John Cena is left-handed? Zerorules677 10:16, 09 April 2007

It's mentioned that John Cena is left-handed to illustrate the point that despite this, he still leads with his right hand when throwing punches. If it was just "He's left handed" it would be removed. Bmg916^Speak_Sign 17:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I don't know if you've seen Triple H (before his injury) punch with his left-hand. Like I said before, that counts. Right? Zerorules677 6:36, 09 April 2007 (UTC)

If you can provide a verifiable reference that says that Triple H used to favor his left hand early in his career, but had to switch to punching with his right hand due to an injury, then I think that would be a legitimate piece of interesting trivia. You'll need a published source that mentions it though in order to include it in the article. Dugwiki 16:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Dates for the managers?

I noticed that the Managers section of the article just lists the names of Triple H's managers, but doesn't give any historical context. I think it would improve that section if next to the person's name you indicated the years that person managed him (eg "1998-1999" or whatever). Dugwiki 22:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

retire

didnt it sound like he was retiring at the hall of fame ceremony any one else hear that???24.128.202.124 01:54, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

No not really. Zerorules677 10:10, 01 May 2007 )UTC)

DX?

Do we still want to speak as if DX is still together? It seems that they have removed most if not all references to DX in episopes, excluding the old DX chop occasionally, No entrance music, no 'X' pyro, ect. Sephiroth storm 03:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

HBK still shows the DX "X". And as we all saw last week, he's used the DX chop on Cena. Zerorules677 10:11, 01 May 2007 (UTC)

Accourding to impact wrestling DX is to be scraped upon the return of Triple H. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.249.56 (talk)

Luke Smith

The Luke Smith link under managers links to a fictional charachter unrelated to wrestling. I am unsure of who this is meant to link to, but I can't find a Luke Smith wrestling article.

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Theme Song

Does anyone know what the theme song he used during his feud with Cena around WM 22?

The same one he's used for the last few years, "The Game". He started to come out to "King of Kings" (which he would soometimes use for the next few weeks for promos, although he continued using "The Game" for matches).

Edit request

{{Editprotected}} Could an admin (or other user when it becomes un-protected) add "Ode to Joy" to his theme songs? He used it in 1996/1997 when he was portraying that blueblood character (for an example, watch the 1997 Royal Rumble or 1997 King of the Ring). TJ Spyke 03:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Add The Line in the Sand too. He used it when he was in the stable Evolution.

The article's been unprotected by User:MaxSem. --MZMcBride 20:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Terra Ryzing

does anyone know if his character as Terra Ryzing was a big powerhouse guy because if you say it you can notice that it sounds like terrorizing? Urena198 01:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Not to sound mean, but that is completely irrevelent and obvious. There are no such things as stupid people, just stupid questions.

Resides: New York City...?

Are you sure about this? I never saw any mention about the place where Tripe H lives, so... is this right?

Cheat2win 06:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

In the McMahon DVD he mentions that he lives in New Hampshire; but maybe that's his 2nd home. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 23:15, 03 July 2007 (UTC)

Old/New theme music

If anyone saw the latest raw promo on Triple H's return, the background music was a remixed version of his old theme tune used around 1999 not his usual motorhead "The Game" theme tune, anyone know if this will be his new tune permanently or just a one off?, to me it seems to be too much of a coincidence for a one-off because usually for a promo its just some tense orchastrated music Prem4eva 14:25, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Don't think that his new theme, it was used in his return promo for the raw homecoming in 2005.

The song was fetured on disc 3 of the wwe anthology, it was called the game.

Retired?

I've heard that Triple H has retired. Is this true? Chicablog 01:08, 3 May 2007 (UTC)M

No. He "just" has been inactive while rehabilitating from a torn quadriceps muscle since.Cheat2win 03:42, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

No i think he is busy filming that Jornada del Muerte movie along with everybody else getting kayfabed injured. RealTNAFan 3:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

No, he's not filiming anything right how, it's hard to kayfabe a torn quadriceps surgery video and all the doctors commenting on it and the exact differences between this torn quad and the one he suffered years ago. His injury is not kayfabe. Bmg916^Speak_Sign 20:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh Thanks man i get it now RealTNAFan 6:06, 6 June 2007

Not a problem, let me know if you ever need anything else, Peace. Bmg916^Speak_Sign 11:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

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