Talk:Trad jazz

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[edit] useless haggling about terminology

why all this useless haggling about whether the term "trad jazz" is "valid"? it's the same on the dixieland wiki, and the [non]discussion seems initiated by people who know nothing about music.

the paragraph about the opinionated dichotomy about why 'trad jazz' is somehow 'invalid' is a train wreck. it's pitiful. first of all, so-called jazz is not a "folk music tradition like any other." peasants don't just grab a saxophone and start playing bebop. secondly, jazz is not somehow antithetic to "conventions." like any FORMAL ARTISTIC IDIOM OR SET OF IDIOMS, it has conventions. furthermore, you could even consider "breaking loose from convention" a kind of TRADITION in various regional arts.

not to be mean but it's like the peanut gallery has nothing to contribute other than totally vacuous hagglings over terminology. it's totally vacuous people-- please do some research or put some effort into formulating some actually useful encyclopedic ideas.

[edit] Only British Commonwealth?

Is trad jazz only in British Commonwealth nations? I thought for sure I've heard of musicians in the US and Eastern Europe referred as of this genre.--T. Anthony 15:51, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not very good definition

Actually not very useful. "Trad Jazz" is a term used to describe the West Coast bands which originated with Lu Watters (1939, q.v. on Wiki) and have followed his lead, by using traditional instruments from the 20's -- notably Banjo and Tuba. This distinction is carried forth by Jazz Festivals and Jazz Clinics/Camps throughout the world. The website www.RedHotJazz.com defines the genre by example, and I am currently writing a short exposition on my new website for the Colorado Nighthawks (not yet published) I have been playing jazz on ukulele, guitar and plectrum banjo since 1949 and I am certainly qualified to discuss it!! Right now, I'm busy getting the website ready to publish, but I will come back with a better description when I get some time. ```` Rick Jolley (rickz@usermail.com)