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[edit] Speedy deletion of Winnie Corbally
A tag has been placed on Winnie Corbally requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Excirial (Talk,Contribs) 19:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Speedy deletion of Bud Mclearn
A tag has been placed on Bud Mclearn requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Mblumber (talk) 21:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bud Mclearn
Your posting on the Bud Mclearn article, specifically this comment: "Note by the original poster: Go ahead and delete this page. I suppose that "importance" is a matter of interpretation. This is the second time this has happened, and I can guarantee that I will never.....EVER.....start another new Wikipedia page. While you're hawking around and deleting pages, try to delete the other 50,000 or so on people much more obscure than Mr. McLearn was." shows that you do not seem to understand how an encyclopedia, and in particular Wikipedia works. The person may certainly be notable but you have to show it following the rules. A person has to be notable in a verifiable way, by providing reliable sources. Don't take it personally but that is the way this works. If you can assert notability following these rules, then you are welcome to try again. Have a good day. -- Alexf42 22:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Speedy deletions; Bud Mclearn
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I'm sorry that you've encountered frustration in attempting to establish new articles. There can be a steep learning curve, and it is a little daunting I know, but I hope you won't give up on adding new content. I wanted to give you a few points that might help you in case you decide to continue. When creating an article, it can be very useful to add an {{inuse}} tag (with squiggly brackets—I forget what they're called—and all), which expands into a message letting other editors know that you aren't finished and are continuing to develop the article. This may give you time to complete the article before it is tagged. One of the first things I do when creating a new article is to get a couple of sources in. While biography articles should not be speedily deleted if they assert importance for the subject, the definition of what qualifies as "importance" is a little subjective. We have some relatively clear definitions of "notability" in terms of biographies, but importance is meant to be a separate consideration. (You can read over that deletion criterion at WP:CSD#A7.) Reliable sources to help verify off the bat that what you're saying is true and that your subject is a notable person can be immensely helpful in at least encouraging a broader consideration of the subject. While addressing articles tagged for speedy deletion, I came upon this article and removed the tag as I do believe there is enough assertion of importance to merit wider consideration. This doesn't mean the article won't be deleted if it is not brought into conformance with guidelines, though. Please read over the notability guidelines for biographies, and particularly the section on athletes. I am by no means a sports fan and have no idea if this man's hall of fame inductions qualify as "Competitors and coaches who have competed at the highest level in amateur sports (who meet the general criteria of secondary sources published about them)." I presume that you do. :) If it does, and you add sources to verify the accuracy, then the article can be more fairly assessed by other Wikipedians. Even if it doesn't, the subject may meet notability guidelines as long as he has been "the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." (Footnotes for that quote can be found at WP:BIO.) Please let me know at my talk page if I'm unclear about any of this or if I can be off assistance to you. Alternatively, you can seek assistance at the help desk, which is typically manned around the clock by volunteers. You can also ask your questions here if you like and simply place {{helpme}} next to it, which will draw a volunteer to this page to answer you. Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia and, again, I'm sorry for the difficulties you've encountered. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
