Talk:Tom Sawyer (song)

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Merge to Moving Pictures (album)? Philwelch 20:02, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Lyrics question

One website says "as his skies are wide", but another website says "as his eyes are wide". I hear "eyes". Which one is it?

Hi. I just looked at the CD insert for the remaster (Core Music Publishing (SOCAN)) and it says: "...Maybe as his eyes are wide." The second site you visited had it right--great argument for second opinions!CPRdave 21:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually it says both. First time says, "eyes are wide", second time around it says, "skies are wide."--216.101.11.66 19:56, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Is the "growling" sound from the intro from an Oberheim? I would have sworn it was a patch from the Taurus pedal synthesizer, which is mentioned in the credits. Actually, I don't own neither an Oberheim nor a Taurus (poor "rittre" me!), but I have a Yamaha CS2X, and an almost identical patch is listed as "Taurus".

"I don't own either an Oberheim", not "neither". (Sorry, I'm a grammar stickler)Thhhh (talk) 23:57, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Video Game Inclusion

Maybe add something about the song being included in the Harmonix video game Rock Band?

No trivia. Carl.bunderson (talk) 20:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I think it is notable lots of other wiki pages of songs in rock band have that fact noted —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.86.165.151 (talk) 04:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, many pages have trivia that needs be removed. Thank you for your insight. Carl.bunderson (talk) 06:56, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I dont think that a songs inclusion on an important video game is trivia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brainster31 (talk • contribs) 15:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

WP isn't an indiscriminate collection of information. How is the song's use in various parts of pop culture important to the song. From the WP: handling trivia page: "Some trivia is actually important to none of the subjects it connects. The mention of Beelzebub as an enemy in Devil May Cry is of little importance to the topic of Beelzebub, a devil whose name is mentioned in a great variety of context. Similarly, that Beelzebub is the name of an enemy in Devil May Cry (a featured article) is not important enough for mention in the article on the video game (in fact, neither that article nor any of its subarticles mentions specific ordinary enemies.)" I really think this falls under this category. Please demonstrate its notability before re-adding. Carl.bunderson (talk) 18:16, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, if we're talking about a song's use in pop culture, then there should be a section labeled as such. Check nearly every song that is in the game Rock Band, their wiki always mentions its inclusion in the game (either in the triva, usages in popular culture or the intro, descriptive section.) Even the wiki for the other Rush song that is in the game, "Working Man," mentions its inclusion. It might not be trivia, but something more important. There should be an appearances in popular culture section that mentions that it is featured in Rock Band, on top of it being in parts of episodes of Futurama and Family Guy. Truthfully, the article is lacking without this section, so it should either be added, or the 50-60 or so wiki's which mention its inclusion should have that section removed. See for yourself- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_in_Rock_Band#Main_setlist —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conbus (talk • contribs) 02:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe you that such info is included on similar pages. And I think, as I'm sure does Wisdom89, that yes, the 50-60 or so pages which mention such inclusions need to have these sections removed, as they are trivial and nn. Carl.bunderson (talk) 20:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Lately, there's been a slew of IPs who keep reinserting the random line about Tom Sawyer being featured in rock band. I know, it's true, it's factual and kinda neat, but really it's just kinda thrown in there. I'd like to keep the WP:TRIVIA in this article to a minimum. So, just for future reference, I will most likely revert (not revert war) the addition of this information and direct any user to this discussion page for commentary. Wisdom89 (T / C) 20:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Song Sample?

On the Rush page, there is an audio clip of Tom Sawyer. Shouldn't that just be moved to this page. It would make more sense to have the clip on the song's page instead of the band's page. Thhhh (talk) 23:57, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Geddy Lee

If Geddy is the bassist and singer, how did he play synth as stated in the article? Or did someone else play and who? frogTape (talk) 02:31, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

No, it was, and still is him. His rig consisted of various keyboards, foot pedals, a mic and of course his bass. When not playing the keys, he'd play bass and hit food pedals with his feed. When not playing his bass, he'd rely on his left hand to hit bass notes while fingering keyboards with his right. Wisdom89 (T / C) 02:37, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

—Preceding comment added by EarthBoundX5 (talk • contribs) 21:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Please do not clutter the article with miscellaneous lists of trivial information. They are to be avoided per WP:TRIVIA. They also violate WP:DIRECTORY and WP:LIST. Wisdom89 (T / C) 07:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you moving this section to the talk page so that we may discuss this issue. I invite all editors who monitor this page to offer their opinions on whether the above content should be included in the article. I see the cultural significance that the list is trying to prove, but, it really should be done in prose format, and definitely read less like miscellany. If it can't be, then I'd venture to say that it really doesn't belong. Wisdom89 (T / C) 21:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Appearences in other media and general information about the song is not cluttering. Maybe certain people decides that this information is useless and ecides to ignore it, but you have to be more objectiva that to just erase a whole piece of the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.174.216.199 (talk) 02:30, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Appearances in other media are useless. It does clutter the page with information of questionable notability, and opens the floodgates for more useless facts. Please remember, WP is not an indiscriminate collection of facts. Carl.bunderson (talk) 02:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
If the anon user wishes to read further about this, see what wikipedia is not. Wisdom89 (T / C) 07:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)