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[edit] Name?

One page on Wikipedia is called "Toe Jam & Earl". Another page is called "ToeJam and Earl" with the word "and" instead of the ampersand. However, judging from the offical site the game is actually called "ToeJam & Earl", meaning neither name is exactly right. More importantly, I think these pages should be merged.

Well one page seems to discuss the idea of ToeJam & Earl, and the other decsribes the first game in detail, so maybe there is a way to make the second one ToeJam & Earl (Genesis version) or whatever.
I personally don't think there needs to be a platform-specific article, as I doubt there are many differences between the different platform's games. Truthfully I never got to play the game on any platform, I just happened upon these articles through chance. Retodon8 (That was me earlier.)
However you came across them, you're right that they should be merged. Though, also from what you said, they should probably be merged under ToeJam & Earl, which is currently a redirect. -- Supermorff 20:11, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Well, I just merged ToeJam and Earl with Toe Jam & Earl using the latter page as the end result. I made sure not to lose any information, and I also corrected a few small things while I was at it. Now the correct page ToeJam & Earl needs to be deleted before the new merged page can be moved there (in order to save the editing history.) After that all incorrect titles should redirect to this same page. Retodon8 01:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Can the three games possibly have their own wiki pages? This will allow more information on each game to be included...I'll add information to them, but in their current states it's not viable to...

I agree, the three games should each have their own page. Even if they are left as stubs, it will encourage people to expand them.--Mysterious Bob 14:29, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I've made a page for the second game in the series, as its the only one I own. I'll update it further in a few days. I'll try to include as much information about it as possible. This is my first ever edit/article so It might be a bit messy or have incorrect grammar, so feel free to change it. Jamsoup 11th April 07

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED to correct title. -GTBacchus(talk) 14:01, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

Toe Jam & Earl → ToeJam & Earl – Correct spelling of the name, target is currently a redirect back to the current page TJ Spyke 03:33, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

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[edit] Discussion

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[edit] Wii doesn't count?

Some guy just removed the Wii as a platform. He said "Only physical copies count". Was this vandalism or the truth. I have seen Super Mario 64 with Wii under it. For now I will keep it added.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Starmenclock (talk • contribs)

Only systems where the game has physically been released count. I didn't know about Super Mario 64, thank you for pointing it out. TJ Spyke 20:56, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Personally, I don't think there's an official rule either way regarding use of the infobox; a quick check of current Xbox Live Arcade games indicates a preference to leave it out, although they all have categories and a mention in the article prose. Nifboy 01:25, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, but this is complete bs. No place on earth does it say only physical copies count. That's complete bias, if you don't mind me saying so. If TJ&E is available as a paid commodity on the virtual console, it goes on the release list just as much as any online-only distribution of a game. By this standard, several Steam games might not count as well. It is simply illogical, and any argument for it will fall apart under the fact that digital distribution is the coming dominant form of software distro. Putting it back in, in the name of WP consistency. --Decept404 20:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Then again i shouldve checked if it had actually been removed ;) Sorry. In any case my rant stands.--Decept404 20:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Phyisicaly data on a Nintendo Wii is a actual atom so it does count.

[edit] Toejam

Why does toejam redirect here? And why isn't there a disambiguation page for toejam? They should have an article for it; it's the black stuff that collects under one's nails. Ratso 23:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Toe Jam is a hygenic term and a character in a bunch of classic SEGA games for SEGA and X-BOX.

Though I do think it's bizzare to direct here and not have disambig.It also depends on the color of the sock fabric

I just created the disambiguation page Toe jam; it no longer redirects here. =Axlq 23:11, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Incidentally, I've never had any "toe-jam" on my feet, EVER. Some people just wear their shoes too long. --70.234.42.109 (talk) 11:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ToeJam & Earl article's purpose?

Accidentally wrote this in Talk:ToeJam_and_Earl due to the redirect. Anyway, this article is very confused. The introductory paragraphs describe information pertaining specifically to the first ToeJam and Earl game, and then the article moves on to tautologically discuss the first game in its own section, then the second and third games. The infobox also only lists information about the first game, and the other games remain largely ignored in this sense. Is this article about the series or about the first game or about the two titular characters? Perhaps we should have one article per game and another article listing the characters and giving descriptions. -- Reinhart 01:37, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion! When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. 137.22.11.214 00:23, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Not that I'm badmouthing SEGA but I want someone to add a toejam article in another context (sorry)

[edit] Music emphasis

Nitpicking, but in what game ISN'T music a part of the concept? Slightly rewriting that paragraph--Decept404 20:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC) yes especially if it's a classic game.

[edit] Christmas

I've removed this:

"It is possible that the game is set at Christmas time. Santa Claus appears (albeit as an enemy) and all the items come in the form of gifts (whose contents are randomized - opening a present is the only way to tell which item is in each parcel). The Nintendo Wii Virtual Console release of ToeJam & Earl was also made available on December 25th."

Suggesting it's Christmas is original research. Santa Claus is not an enemy. Opening gifts is not the only way to find out what's in them. The statement about the Wii release might be true but needs a source and needs to be not tied to the unsourced statement that it's Christmas. Angela. 21:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC) I disagree, afterall it looks just like Christmas,and Santa Claus is waaaay not an enemy.

Christmas aside, I think it should be noted in the article that if you manage to sneak up on Santa and touch him, without him noticing and rocket-packing away, he will drop several presents for you (between 2 and 5 usually). --Trevc63 01:13, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Point System

I think it would be cool if we could add some to the detail of the point system, perhaps how many points are awarded per present opened, map square revealed, phone picked up, etc. Also, it would be cool to have the point thresholds at which each of the ranks are attained. --Trevc63 21:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Earthlings

I merged all the info in the article regarding earthlings and did a little cleanup, but I think it would be cool to add the "good" earthlings such as the Carrot Man and add info regarding how many tomatoes it takes to kill each one and how much the "good" ones charge for their services. Also, perhaps it would be better to organize them in tables. --Trevc63 21:49, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Toe Jam & Earl.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)