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[edit] McClatchy article move proposals

see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (definite and indefinite articles at beginning of name)

Using the definte article in this case goes against the Wikipedia Manual of Style. It is unnecessary for the purposes of Wikipedia and will only cause headaches in categorization. Yes, in speech one always says "The Beaufort Gazette", just like one says "The ***" for virtually every other newspaper. But every other newspaper is listed without the definite article. --AlexWCovington (talk) 05:11, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

See admin Mets501's response here. Many papers don't formally use the definite article in their titles, and in those cases WP:NAME suggests omitting it. For comparison, see The New York Times and Chicago Tribune. --Tobogganoggin 17:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New York Sun move

Tobogganoggin,

I noticed that Duja had moved the page but the talk page didn't go along with it. I went back and tried to redo the move, but I got the same results he did even though I checked the box about moving the talk page. Do you know what the problem is and how we might fix it? Dasondas 12:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] July 27, 2005

Just to satisfy my sheer curiosity, how did you settle on July 25, 2005 for all the newspaper screen shots you put up recently? SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:10, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey Schuminweb, I really just wanted to add images to as many newspapers articles as I could in the shortest time, so to make things easier I decided to pick one date. This way, instead of typing out each unique caption and image summary (and invariably introducing numerical errors), I could just paste this stuff in when I needed it. I then looked at Newseum's archived front pages list to pick a suitable date. Once I did, the choice seemed obvious. I wanted something fairly recent (w/in a couple years), and some event that would have a cool picture. Many of the significant events of this new century have been somewhat politically sensitive or tragic, so I avoided those topics and settled on the Discovery Space Shuttle's return flight. It seemed like a topic that was rather neutral politically, that few would find objectionable (although I know there will always be some who disagree). I think of the images I've uploaded as just placeholders, and I hope that local folks feel bold enough to replace them with more apt, recent, local stories as they occur. I haven't replaced any existing images have avoided replacing existing images in most cases where they were found (as in Montgomery Advertiser), and in the case of 2 Hawaiian newspapers (The Honolulu Advertiser and West Hawaii Today), I was quick enough on the draw to add images featuring the recent nonfatal earthquake there instead. To me, those 3 seem like perfect examples of encyclopedic newspaper images - recent stories that were widely reported, yet which are of particular relevance to the community served by said newspaper. Anyway, I figured someone would ask eventually, and I'm sorry to give such a long response. I hope I haven't stepped on any toes here, and I also hope I've satisfied your curiosity! --Tobogganoggin 03:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

No toes stepped on here. I think it's a great addition to the articles in question, and am glad to find out the rationale for how you arrived at that date. You put a lot more thought into it than I expected, which is awesome. SchuminWeb (Talk) 10:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Sheboygan Press

I created an article for the newspaper. Please work your magic like you did at The Post-Crescent. Ach ya!

Cool and interesting note on the July 27th. I wonder how many people have the capability of scanning in a full page newspaper. Royalbroil T : C 04:31, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Times-Picayune masthead

Ah cool, thanks!  :o) — OwenBlacker 12:46, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gordon Smith

Hi- just wanted to say thanks for the excellent work you've been doing on the Gordon Smith article. One suggestion - the names of bills are not particularly informative, a summay of a few words for each stating why it's relevant would be helpful. If I knew more about those bills I'd do it myself, but unfortunately I don't. Anyway, keep up the good work!! -Pete 17:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Great job there…the Smith section on social policy is looking fantastic. I just looked at your user page, and it seems you're not an Oregonian, but more an equal-opportunity political geek. I've written a draft of a letter to my Oregon state legislators, and I wonder if you could take a look. I'd like them to pass a law making works of the Oregon government public domain, like works of the federal government. I'm guessing that with the kind of wiki work you've done, you probably have a good understanding of why this would be helpful. Here is my draft: User:Peteforsyth/leg Any contributions or feedback welcome - we've got a lively discussion going on its talk page. Cheers! -Pete 22:33, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Georgia Congressional Districts

Thank you for your very constructive additions to the pages of Georgia's congressional districts, including Georgia's 4th congressional district. You definitely made the pages a lot better! --Jhortman 02:55, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] The New Mexican (magazine)

You renamed and moved this article to New Mexico Magazine and created a redirect on the original page. The New Mexican and New Mexico Magazine are two entirely different publications. Applying what was written for The New Mexican to New Mexico Magazine provides the reader with incorrect information. It would be like renaming The New York Times to New York Post simply because they or both newspapers with "New York" in the title. --Wordbuilder 22:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Thank you for your reply on this. I can definitely see where the confusion came from. I'll research both magazines (plus look into any others that may have a similar name) and update the articles. Keep up the great work! -- Wordbuilder 01:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Template:EWS CORP

There are already templates existing that also, already link to other templates...

We should have our templates something like the below example:

The E.W. Scripps Company
v • d • e

Corporate Leadership: Kenneth W. Lowe (President & CEO) | Richard A. Boehne | Mark G. Contreras |A.B. Cruz III | Frank Gardner | Joseph G. NeCastro | Tim Peterman | William B. Peterson | Jennifer L. Weber | Mark Hale | Lori A. Hickok | M. Denise Kuprionis | Timothy E. Stautberg | E. John Wolfzorn | Judith G. Clabes | Sharon Hite

Subsidiaries: Scripps Howard News | Scripps Howard Broadcasting | Scripps Interactive Media | Scripps Networks

Annual Revenue: $2.2 billion USD (2004) | Employees: 10,000 | Stock Symbol: NYSE: SSP | Website: www.scripps.com

It might not be the most creative thing, but this is a result of countless Wikipedians complaining that the templates are too crowded and large!!! Let's discuss this some more, shall we!?!? --WIKISCRIPPS 07 MON MAR 19 2007 11:11 PM EDT

[edit] WikiProject Journo

First off, Tobogganoggin, thanks for the Barnstar ... completely unexpected but highly appreciated. More importantly, thanks for your continued input at the newspaper article proposal. It shouldn't be just a two-way discussion, though, and I'd like to see these guidelines acquire some legitimacy through consensus. You and I both know there are a ton of folks who spend considerable time editing newspaper articles -- you and me, and a few others who've commented on this page, but a ton more besides. Any ideas on how to get them involved with this discussion?
``` W i k i W i s t a h W a s s a p 22:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Newspaper article guidelines: 2nd draft

From WP Journo:

Incorporating other users' comments, I've made a few changes to my proposal on writing newspaper articles, which I hope someday to get accepted as an official guideline of this project. The proposal is meant to help new editors write Wikipedia articles about newspapers, and help veteran editors produce standards-based edits.

Thanks a ton for commenting on my first draft. The comments of fellow editors were very helpful, and I hope I can snag a few minutes from you again this time. ``` W i k i W i s t a h W a s s a p ``` 18:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Max Boot at WP:COIN

Hello Tobogganoggin. Waiting for your response at WP:COIN#Max Boot. EdJohnston (talk) 20:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Couric material in Obama "Whispers" (sic) article

This section has been totally mucked up since I last looked at it (the original Couric text per insightmag and mediamatters has been lost somehow) so I'd appreciate your holding off working on it until I finish a restoration. I'll drop you a note when I'm done. Thanks. Andyvphil (talk) 07:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I think it was my fault when I incorrectly tried to condense a duplicated ref tag. Hopefully I've got it fixed now (see talk page). - Tobogganoggin talk 07:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

No, it's more than a dup ref that has been lost. The whole business of Couric/CBS "correcting" the record to replace a true statement with an error has been lost. Anyway, I'm trying to merge an earlier version with any improvement that might have shown up along with the problems, and am just asking you to hold off on editing the section further so that I'm not tracking a moving target. There's a template for that, but I forget what it is... Andyvphil (talk) 08:07, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'm done for now. Please resume your good work. Andyvphil (talk) 08:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A refreshing change in discourse

Thanks, it's nice to have a journalistic perspective at Insight Magazine. WNDL42 (talk) 21:23, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Courier News front page.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Argus Leader front page.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Billings Gazette front page.jpg

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[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Arizona Daily Star front page.jpg)

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