Talk:Toasting

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[edit] Toast vs. Rap

As someone unfamiliar with the subject, I'd like this encyclopedia article to discern between toasting and rapping. What's the difference -- and how did one lead to the other? Cribcage 21:17, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

They're both talking over music, but toasting precedes rap. I intend to expand this page when time allows! Paul Tracy 14:09, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Oppose. "Toasting" can have two separate meanings: 1) African American folk poetry, or 2) Jamaican DeeJay shout-outs, but DeeJay (which includes toasting as well as ragga-style rapping) is strictly a Jamaican art form. Badagnani 21:15, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Oppose. See the Toasters for an example of Toasting. Deejaying is not close to the same thing.

Oppose i agree toasting is an aspect of deejaying and the article is quite complete therefore i do not believe it should be merged

What we should do is be more specific in discerning it from rapping. Because it has a history that is specifically important to the development of rap, and because you don't need to always be a DJ when you're toasting, I Oppose merger.--Urthogie 17:28, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Oppose. Which came first, the toast or the rap? The toast, of course. I own a CD titled "Get Your Ass In The Water And Swim Like Me!" from Rounder Records, CD 2014, UPC 011661201422 that clearly demonstrates what toasting is, and I would have to say that this is very much different from what your average person knows rapping to be. On this CD there are 3 versions of "The Signifying Monkey", and Cab Calloway (swing artist) sings a rendition of the signifying monkey, entitled "The Jungle King" on one of his own albums--indicating that not all toasts are turned into rap. I like toasts, but I generally do not like rap, so there is definitely a difference between them justifying seperate definitions.

?????. I'm not sure what you are all opposing. Where was a merger mooted?Paul Tracy_|\talk