Talk:Tire

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If you have come here to discuss the spelling of 'TIRE' versus 'TYRE' in this article: Please read the following statement before commenting:

We have had a long (and often acrymonious) debate about the naming of this article - followed by consensus voting. The conclusion was that per the Wikipedia Manual of Style, we will follow the rule that when an article is started in one English variant (US English in this case), it should be kept in that variant unless there are overwhelming reasons not to. Historical spelling is not compelling enough to override that decision - and we knew about the historical issues when we visited this question the last time. Unless there is some sort of startling new evidence, we're not likely to be changing the title of the article. Note also that 'Tyre' is a rather important city in Lebanon (and is also the names of US towns in New York and Michigan) - so even if this article could be renamed, it would have to be called "Tyre (mechanical component)" (or something equally ugly) - so you'd STILL have to go through a redirect or disambiguation page to get here. At least this way, 'Tire' isn't a redirect or a dab - so we keep some people happy at the expense of nobody.
(And just so you know that there is no bias in my position - I am a British-English native speaker who habitually writes 'tyre'.)
SteveBaker (talk) 20:20, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Link to disambiguation pages

Since Tyre is a disambiguation page specific to that spelling of the word, it doesn't make sense for the article to say "For other uses, see Tyre", since the only way to get here if the user typed in Tyre is through that disambiguation page. There's no reason to send the reader back to it, especially when there's a disambiguation page for Tire_(disambiguation). I'll add a reference at that page that sends people to the Tyre page if somehow they get that far looking for Tyre.

I know this has a long history for some reason, but I think this is the best solution considering the current tyre/tire article redirect mess. Mbelisle (talk) 04:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. I think the best way is to link to both disambiguation pages and clearly identify them as such. It was just confusing to see “For other uses [of the word ‘tire’] see tyre.” Mbelisle (talk) 05:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
It's a bogus argument anyway. You assume that people only arrived here by typing 'tire' into the search box. It's rather bold of you to assume that you know all possible ways in which to arrive here and all possible intentions of those who do. For example, in articles about British cars, you'll often see [[tire|tyre]] - hence it's perfectly possible to arrive here by clicking on the word 'tyre'. I don't see any problem in leaving a one line reference - we don't know why it might be useful - but it can't in any way hurt. SteveBaker (talk) 20:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Can anyone tell me how heavy a tire is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.77.29.53 (talk) 00:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tire physics

I understand that the contact patch area roughly equals the load on the tire times the air pressure, but how is the load transferred from the tire to the wheel? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Triskele Jim (talk • contribs) 20:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it's the bead that does it - the total of all the forces (from pressure and stretching of the walls) adds up to the load on the tire, pushing back against the rim (but, I'm not an expert, so YMMV).
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.142.62.235 (talk • contribs), on 00:30, April 19, 2008.

[edit] The See Through Tire

There airless technology, and are impervious to the spike strip, last longer and waste less rubber. They were recently presented at a philly car show. if anyone has any information about this topic. i do noy at the moment have the ability to a proper article to this affect. if one could add this article or begin one i cand add pictures which i own and are my make (High quality) please get back to me to this effect.(JTB01 (talk) 17:38, 17 April 2008 (UTC))

I think you mean this: Tweel
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.62.138.102 (talk • contribs), on 02:16, April 22, 2008.

[edit] Wheel

The "Wheel" section contained a reference to a dictionary entry in regard to the difference between the wheel and the rim (which had been used synonymously in the original text). Since wheel is not synonymous with rim, and since the dictionary is an inappropriate reference for a technical discussion, I removed both the term "rim" and the dictionary reference. --71.104.18.213 (talk) 06:52, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Manufacture

I came here looking for information on tyre manufacture, pollutants from manufacturing and degrading, recycling etc - can I find that somewhere else or is it waiting to be written? 89.240.2.27 (talk) 20:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Please see the articles on tire manufacturing, tire recycling, tire maintenance, as well as the others that are listed under the "tire" category (the link is at the bottom of each article's page). I trust that this may help in your search for information — and that you can add material to these articles! — CZmarlin (talk) 03:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tyre Size Specification e.g. 215/75R15

I came here looking for an explanation of what these tyre size numbers mean exactly in the article and was dissapointed not to find it anywhere!? Someone looking for something to do might like to contribute a section in this otherwise long article on exactly what these tyre size numbers actually mean. N.B. This is an Autralian tyre spec so i think the first two numbers are in mm and the final radius number? is in inches. I presume that this is in fact an international approach although the measurement units - be it imperial or metric - may differ from country to country. 122.148.173.37 (talk) 13:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Natural vs. synthetic rubber

"The Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company is trying to adapt. Its raw material of choice now is natural rubber rather than synthetic rubber, made from oil. To sustain profits, it is making more high-end tires for consumers willing to pay upwards of $100 to replace each tire on their cars.

These steps have not been enough, however, particularly now that the cost of natural rubber is also rising sharply, along with that of many other commodities. So Goodyear has raised the prices of its tires by 15 percent in just four months."[1]

It seems that a shift is happening towards using more natural and less synthetic rubber in making tires. It would be good to get some real data, and integrate into the articles. -69.87.203.130 (talk) 16:32, 9 June 2008 (UTC)