Talk:Timothy Wyllie/Archive 1

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I am interested to know how Wikipedians define "tone" in anything but a manner indicative of a POV. As for inline citations, it appears probable that the time required to locate them may not be afforded by the native propensity toward "speedy deletion" without dialogue. If the posted objection has been generated by an algorithm, perhaps it could be designed to highlight problematic portions, and if by a 'real' person, they might register the details of their concern here.

Looking forward,

--Rldavisiv (talk) 23:21, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

After consultating with Wikipedia editors, I am compiling a list of third party citations to address the first objections posted against the merits of the article. As to 'tone', given no one has answered how such is defined, I will address that when it becomes more evident there is an policy statement making more vivid the intent of the reference to an "inappropriate tone".

Looking foward

--Rldavisiv (talk) 21:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Having now obtained a formal statement regarding 'tone', I would like to address the objections made against the article relative to the policy statement.

Policy: "Wikipedia articles, and other encyclopedic content, should be written in a formal tone. Standards for formal tone vary depending upon the subject matter, but should follow the style used by reliable sources, while remaining understandable to the educated layman. Formal tone does not mean the article should be written using unintelligible argot, doublespeak, legalese, or jargon; it means that the English language should be used in a businesslike manner."

Reply: A rexamination of the article does not turn up instances of informality. If any should find otherwise, please articulate your thought.

Policy: "Articles should not be written from a first or second person perspective. Articles written in this fashion are often deleted. First person pronouns such as "I" and "we" imply a point-of-view inconsistent with WP:NPOV (although "we" may be used in mathematical contexts). Second person, "you" or "your", perspective often appears in how-to instructions and is inappropriate. First and second person usage should only be used in articles in attributed direct quotations relevant to the article's subject. Gender-neutral pronouns should be used where the gender is not specific; see Quest for gender-neutral pronouns and the related discussion for further info.

Reply: All references to the 'person' utilize third person pronouns.

Policy: Punctuation marks that appear in the article should only be used per generally accepted practice. Exclamation marks (!) should be used only if they occur in direct quotations.

Reply: This editor finds no punctuation at variance with common usage, and no exclamation points have been used. This editor is particularly reluctant to make use of superlatives without substantiation, therefore the two references "premiere" and "seminal" appearing in the article at different places will be verified with third party citations or changed accordingly.

Further comments are welcome.

--Rldavisiv (talk) 21:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


It appears the only comments ensuing are those of pastordavid who identifies his username as representative of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America on Wikipedia. His comments on this article consist of accusations against it as Sockpuppetry. His talk page also cites that while "Wikipedia is not censored, his talk page is", and that any writing he considers to be 'obscene' "whether vandalism or not will be deleted". This together with the automated deletion of articles on Wikpedia, it seems best to provide a link to the original {uncensored?} article here.

Rob Davis (usernames Rldavisiv and Daynal)

--74.223.63.66 (talk) 16:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

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