Talk:Timeline of climbing Mount Everest

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I suggest to move this article to

"Timeline of climbing Mount Everest"

and to categorize it into

Category:Regional timelines
Category:Mountaineering
Category:Summiters of Mount Everest

Please vote. CeeGee 22:24, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

This seems OK to me. Viewfinder 22:50, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Done. CeeGee 23:02, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Style standardization

Timelines are commonly written in present tense, but large chunks of this are past tense documentation. For ease of reading and standardization, I have converted all of it to past tense, IOW: "James Smith became the first left-handed person from a landlocked Midwestern American state to summit," not "becomes." (No, the sarcasm isn't intended to be derogatory. I was just having fun.:)) I recommend sticking to past tense for consistency.Mzmadmike (talk) 08:08, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notable climbing

  • First, generally it is suggested to link other articles only once per article or section (if the article is long). Here we link the various days/years many times. Is there any reason for that?
  • Secondly, it seems to me that this list is quite a mess. For instance, I do not see why Romi Garduce should be here (beeing the third of his own country to climb Everest is not that interesting). --gala.martin (what?) 02:40, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
You may be right. I merely copied and pasted the material from Mount Everest to stop the indiscriminate growth of a page that was already too long. Go ahead and make any edits you think are appropriate. Viewfinder 18:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notable climbing 2

I think that in this list we should report only notable ascents. If you want to add an ascent, you should say why it is remarkable, why it should be on wikipedia. Everest has been climbed by thousand of people, even many tourists, I do not think that an encyclopedia should list all the people climbing Everest. Otherwise, first or then we will add a list of people going on vacation to the Carribean island an so on! Therefore, I delete (again) some items in the list.--gala.martin (what?) 13:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

It is really ridicilous to compare summiting Mt. Everest with going on vacation to the Carribean island. Please note that the edits I made are for summiters, and not for people who tried to climb. These are two different events. It has to be also shown that "thousands of people" have summited and not only climbed without reaching the top. It is worth of mentioning the names of people who have been at the top of the highest mountain of the world in an encyclopedia, because on the other hand so many people tried it but failed or paid it with thier lives.
As I told you before, the summiting of the Turkish expedition team is noteworthy, because all ten members, among them four women, reached the top, an event occured not so often in the past.
I will give my best to keep my additions present. CeeGee 14:07, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
I do not want to start edit wars or something, so I just will give my best to avoid that. And invite you to be open to discussions, as I am (so, hopefully you will give your best to keep your additions as long as you are convinced that they are the best for wp). From the main article:
As of the end of the 2003 climbing season, 1,919 people had reached the summit (829 of them since 1998)
that is: thousands of people summited, it is shown. Moreover, in the last two summers I expect that many other climbers did it (nowadays, whoever has enough money to afford a good guide and a suitable physical training can climb Everest -of course it is not risk free, but still possible). Moreover, note that in the last years large groups of people reaching the summit are not that rare anymore. --gala.martin (what?) 14:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
By the way, I agree in listing all the climbers who succeded before the 90s. At present, the new goal for professional climbers is to climb Everest and Lhotse together (without going back to the base camp), even with no use of oxygen. So, climbing Everest is certainly a wonderful and excting experience (surely better than Carribean Island!), but IMHO not that interesting to be here. --gala.martin (what?) 15:01, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your additional info and your understanding. CeeGee 19:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Is it an OK, let's clen up! or not? gala.martin (what?) 17:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
You are a funny guy. I meant I appreciate your agreement for leaving my edits and additions as they are. No clean up, nothing! Hands away! CeeGee 18:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Well, in the light of what I wrote, tell me one good reason to leave in the timeline people who was the fifth of his/her country to summit Everest. If I do not edit the article, it does not mean that I agree with it. It just means that I do not edit if there are some points to discuss about it. gala.martin (what?) 21:40, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I see that you have been on wp in the last day. Therefore, since I did not receive any reason from you (or whoever) to keep the disputed items, I delete them. I invite you to be as respectful as I am, and -in the unprobable case in which you do not accept my edits :)- do not revert them without further discussions (NO EDIT WARS!). gala.martin (what?) 19:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
I had already given the reason and explained that I will insist on my insertion. See 14:07, 7 June 2006 (UTC). Sorry, I find no time to discuss same things ever and ever.CeeGee 08:43, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


Lets just see 2000: "On May 17 Nazir Sabir from Pakistan became the first Pakistani to climb Everest. He climbed from the Nepali side at 7:32 a.m local time.

On October 7 Davo Karničar from Slovenia accomplished an uninterrupted ski descent from the top to the base camp in five hours."

Oh, someone from Pakistan climbed Everest. Wooohooo...big deal. I know it's great thing for any nation to climb Everest, but this is WORLD encyclopedia, not Pakistani nor any other nation's. And, frankly, people don't care if some Pakistani (I don't have anything against Pakistan, I'm just using this as an example) made totally normal, everyday ascent. It's only BIG ASS major accomplishments that should be noted (e.g. skiing from the summit to BC). To lazy to log in, I'm z0r04st3r —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.3.80.55 (talk) 20:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

And a follow up: nor is this Turkish encyclopedia, so turkish expedition IMO has no place here. If I remember correct there were days when more then 100 people summited, so 10 people from Turkey (or whereever) is no big deal. And you yourself said that same things happened before, so why list it, it's just another ascent in the line. Z0r04st3r (talk) 20:42, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please stop the edit warring

I created this list to make more space, so I don't like this edit warring over who should be included. Please agree or go to arbitration. In my opinion, it should include, or be linked to, everyone who has summitted Everest, but I know of no copyright free source of this information. Viewfinder 20:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I do not like edit wars as well. Indeed I think the discussion was going quietly enough. Unfortunately, I will not have much time to spend on wikipedia in the next month, and I prefer to use it in a more profitable way. By the way, it hurts the fact that the one who does not give his reasons will get it. --gala.martin (what?) 15:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How many climbed each year?

This would be the useful thing to know: how many people made it to the top each year? This actually came up in a quiz recently, and I'm not satisfied with the answer (given as "more than 500 each year"). It'd be nice to have "2003: xxx summits". Stevage 10:04, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] The "lion story" - a fake?

1952 New Zealand Eugene Aarons-cooke becomes the first woman to perish by means of an animal on Mount Everest. She was mauled by a lion at the base camp, and her body was not discovered until 3 years later in a cave A lion above 13.000 ft?? ... Please verify. 217.189.99.15

[edit] Application for External Link to full list of ascents

The link is here. The lists are not mine, but they are on my site, so I should not add these links myself. Viewfinder 14:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pre-Mallory Asian expeditions

Is it reasonable to assume that people from the Asian continent ascended the mountain before the first expedition recorded here? Is there any documented evidence of pre-Mallory expeditions? Black-Velvet 10:39, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Latest climbing

Why is this article missing the May 16, 2007 ascent of the three Filipino women? -chris^_^ 00:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

ANYONE?! -chris^_^ 10:01, 13 July 2007 (UTC)


Why aren't Rob Gauntlett(19) and James Hooper(19) on this list the youngest Britons to climb Mount Everest.


I'm guessing you'll need no answer other then: Why aren't there the youngest Germans, Austrians, Swiss, Italians, Poles, French, Spanish, Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, Indians, Slovenians, ...., San Marinoans and Vaticanians to climb Mt Everest? Why aren't there the oldest of each nation in the world? First woman of each nation in the world? The oldest and youngest women of each nation? etcetcetc... IMO, only SPECIAL climbs of world interest should be noted. Exceptions are pre 1990 ascents 'cuz those were true climbers, mountaineers and pioneers, unlike these tourists today :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.3.80.55 (talk) 20:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Maurice Wilson

I just merged the Maurice Wilson article into here, and so as to avoid deletion of information I left the second paragraph on this page. It reads like fairly wild speculation, but I dont know enough about the subject to decide. If someone who knows about it has a look, remove it if its the speculation isn't widely held? Jdcooper (talk) 19:48, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I've recreated the article on Wilson with more information and better sourcing - he was a fascinating character, and there's more than enough on him for a good article. The idea that he reached the summit is very much a minority view - I'm not sure if anyone other than Noy believes it. I've given it a bit of discussion in the main article (possibly too much), but I agree it doesn't belong in the summary here. I'm removing it. Iain99Balderdash and piffle 00:46, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 1996

Is there a reason for ignoring 1996, which included the worst disaster on the mountain, as well as the the first IMAX footage from its summit? MMetro (talk) 13:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Timeline of regional, national, and ethnic records??

I think the line On 13 May Dave Rodney became the first Canadian born in Saskatchewan to summit Mt. Everest, and also the 12th Canadian to summit Mt. Everest is a bit redundant, there has already been a "first Canadian" to reach the summit, so what the point in this? I hardly think that being from Saskatchewan merits notice in the article. Any opposition to my removal of this? Taifarious1 06:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)