Talk:Timeline of Zionism

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I am not very well versed in this subject, but it seems to me that generally movements start long before assosciations are formed to represent them. There must be some events before the society was created.

Interesting that there's been no response to the (above) cogent observation over the last two years. In fact Zionism existed for thousands of years prior to the first entry on this timeline. However, the article does state that it is only meant to cover the "Timeline of Zionism in the MODERN era." I would suggest that the modern era starts with the Enlightenment, Emancipation, rise of Nationalism and liberation movements of which that of the Jews was merely one.

Since this article is intended to only cover the "Modern Era," the article should be titled Timeline of Zionism in the Modern Era. Doright 19:49, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

One feels the holocaust should be mentioned in this. Evercat 22:51 7 Jun 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Bernadotte

Fares S (talk · contribs) added the assassination of Folke Bernadotte. The Zionist leadership condemned this act by a fringe group, so it would be wrong to say that it representated mainstream Zionism. It's covered in articles dedicated to history of the conflict, but doesn't belong in the Timeline of Zionism. I removed it. ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 08:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Answer about Bernadotte

If you read my sentence about Count Bernadotte, you can notice that I said that a "Zionist terrorist group assassined the UN mediator".

This sentence does not imply that ALL the mainstream Zionist leadership is composed of terrorists.

It only says that a terrorist group (that might not represent the mainstream) has assassined Bernadotte ... and that's a fact.

You might want to hide it, in order to embellish the image of the Zionist movement. That's your own choice. But this is definitely a non-professional behavior.

Rgrds,

F.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fares S (talk • contribs) .

Should this be in the article at all? I do not assume bad faith, but the article cites a specific source which says nothing at all on the issue. I vote to finding sources for information on such sensetive matters. --Chodorkovskiy ^(talk) 09:33, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Dear Chodorkovskiy: For all references, I would invite you to visite the Wikipedia article "Folke Bernadotte" where you will see that the Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir (A Zionist) was part of the terrorist group. This is what our biased contributor was trying to hide ... Fares S 10:43, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

He was in Lehi about 50 before he became prime minister, nobody is trying to hide anything, we just don't want to poison the well. Also not even Islamic Jihad's article describes them as terrorist, it's just too controversial a term.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 21:33, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Dear Fares S, I would like to remind you that Wikipedia is not a reliable source, and that each article should point to outside sources. Otherwise, it becomes original research. --Chodorkovskiy ^(talk) 05:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)