Talk:Timeline of Scientology
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This should be a non-pov historical timeline. Please use verifiable sources for positive and negative information. If someone has a better way to format this data, I look forward to seeing it!
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- I don't think this article can ever function properly. There's just way too much stuff that belongs on a Scientology timeline, and the length of the article will reach its maximum long before even a tenth of that information can be added to it. wikipediatrix 16:06, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- You are probably correct. I wanted to trace major events in one place, but it already looks horrible and there doesn't seem to be much interest. I will not object if someone afd's it. Gallup 01:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think this article can ever function properly. There's just way too much stuff that belongs on a Scientology timeline, and the length of the article will reach its maximum long before even a tenth of that information can be added to it. wikipediatrix 16:06, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] This article survived AfD in June 2006
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This article was nominated for deletion on 5 June 2006. The result of the discussion was Keep. |
[edit] Serious Doubts...
About the very first timeline entry. Nowhere have I ever heard or read anything about that many novels, that many genres, or having anything to do with filmmaking, attributed to L. Ron... John 19:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Thus I removed it. Timeline now beginswith the 1938 entry. Changed the wording to fit it being the first entry. Take a look at the previous version of the page to see what I removed. John 03:25, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
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- So, the article tells us that in 1998, Sonny Bono pushes for the passage of the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act, which extends the copyright protection of all copyrighted works (including Scientology teachings) an extra 20 years? Maybe he introduced it in 1998, but how much "pushing" could he have done, since he died on January 5? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.218.205.17 (talk) 21:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] That bar bet
There is a persistantly circulating rumor, that has been spread over several decades now ( I myself first encountered it in the very early 1980's), that L. Ron Hubbard at some point placed a bet with a skeptic that he could launch a significant religious path based upon spiritual truths and symbolisms as expressed in his ideas and writings. (Note: given the often haphazard origins of many currently serious and meaningful religious paths, some now even quite ancient, this does NOT necessarily rule out Scientology as a relevant spiritual path. It would - if anything - merely grant it an interesting footnote of details included in its origin.) If there is proof either for or against this "bet" concept, it might be a point of interest (not necessarily relevant to the spiritual validity of Scientology) to either substantiate or debunk this rumor. (Perhaps this has already been done, and I am not privileged to have seen it yet...) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.128.106.110 (talk • contribs)
- I've looked into them. I think the ones with "see who can start a better religion" (usually involving Heinlein or Herbert) can be ruled out. Recently I stumbled across accounts from Judith Merril and Frederik Pohl that mention a bet. This was in the New York/New Jersey area in the post-war 40s where they were present, and involved an editor who (perhaps fed up with Hubbard's frequent "start a religion" comments) bet Hubbard to come up with an outline of his religion by the next day. Other than that, there aren't too many details, but this one has consistency that most of the others lack. Judy Merril and Fredric Pohl were a couple, were in that area at that time, this was directly told (separately) by them to a writer who was doing guest liaison for the Ad Astra Science Fiction convention where Fredric Pohl was a guest at least once and Judy attended frequently, and then from her to me. I think that there's another account out on the web separately sourced to Judith Merril and/or Fredric Pohl that mainly agrees with the one I had from Shirley Meier.
- But.. So what? As a 3rd-hand verbal story, it still lacks details like the exact date and location, the name of the editor, and most of all it lacks any references and citations that can be verified. Perhaps if either Judy or Fred wrote this down in any of their published non-fiction writings or letters, it could be used in Wikipedia. (I know just the librarian to ask about that, but haven't yet.) AndroidCat 13:17, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
