Talk:Time for print

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[edit] Unencyclopedic?

This article appears to concern a detailing of the modelling business, and is more suitable for passing mention in an article on the latter topic. Perhaps an article on modelling business terminology and procedures. BeteNoir 05:51, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

This term is not used commonly in the traditional fashion modeling industry, but it is common jargon in online model and photography communities (examples: www.modelmayhem.com, www.onemodelplace.com). I have adjusted the term for neutrality and accuracy.RichardTallent 22:31, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Question: For acronyms used in certain online communities, there are no verifiable printed sources, nor are there necessarily verifiable online sources defining the term. I could reference ModelMayhem and OneModelPlace as examples of well-know communities that use these terms, and any member of one of those sites could verify the accuracy of the definition, but there is no individual glossary page I can point to, and the best definitions and explanations are in member-restricted bulletin board postings. What is the best course of action for citation in these cases?RichardTallent 23:04, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

One online source of information on the TFP is at http://www.newmodels.com/TFP.html TFP is jargon used exclusively in the online model/photographer community. It is not used in mainstream modeling. The article currently in Wikipedia on TFP is too specific about the nature of the agreements which fall under TFP. It also misstates what working models and photographers do ("testing" is quite common to "fill gaps in portfolios" and for other reasons). Further, the article claims that "test shoots" are at no cost to the model, which frequently is not true in the fashion and commercial modeling industry.

disagree, its extremely encyclopedic147.144.66.203 20:22, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Google let me down, so I came here. I found the definition very helpful and see no harm in leaving it.

Actually, Roger Talley (author of newmodels.com) is a photographer and a former agent, and recently published a book on the subject (http://www.amazon.com/Professionals-Guide-Modeling-Roger-Talley/dp/0615146775). He is knowledgeable about both the brick-and-mortar industry and hobby/art modeling, and is a regular and tireless contributor to several Internet forums on the subject. His status as an expert is well-recognized in the relevant communities.RichardTallent

This page has been brought up for discussion here http://www.modelmayhem.com/p.php?thread_id=212110 and Roger Talley weighs in on the topic and the reasoning behind keeping this as an independent topic.70.121.227.220 00:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

TFP/TFCD is a term that is frequently used in the amateur modeling/photography field, and as the term developed online, there is not a sole "verifiable" source for this term. But that doesn't make it irrelevant or unworthy of definition. There are obviously people looking for the meaning of this term here, so, why not leave it and perhaps make it more neutral and not so specific. A site called Modellaunch has good definitions of TFP/TFCD and Test Shoot here: http://www.modellaunch.com/help.php - look under "Other Questions."

Just stumbled upon this page, kept seeing the acronym, definition was helpful. This is what wikipedia should be - an information repository about everything.

I've addressed the issue of confusion with "testing." Since there is no standard list of terms and conditions for a TFP/TFCD shoot, I added a list of issues that the model and photographer must come to an agreement on, along with a general idea of common practices. RichardTallent