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[edit] Digital Time Capsule

I reverted the recent addition of the digital time capsule website as 3 or 4 mentions was excessive and obviously a self-link promo. I was going to remove the whole thing but on further thought it is a valid form of time capsule and will re-add a mention of it in more general terms. -- Stbalbach 01:25, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually on further looking at http://www.findthetimecapsule.com , it is just a promo site for a financial institution. "Time Capsule" in this sense is being used by analogy and is not really a time capsule, anymore than archive.org is a time capsule. --Stbalbach 01:30, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
You have a point that there is a promotional element in that website, but where does one draw the line? Completely removing a reference to it (as it is a valid example of storing and revealing things about the past) rather than describing it as a "digital time capsule" example is questionable. I find that your example of archive.org defeats your argument - that is the epitome of a digital time capsule. It has effectively locked up snapshots of periods in history, accessible to all. You do have a valid point regarding the excessive mentions, however.--Michelmreid 03:03, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
A web site, the Internet, is like a book, a library, a database of information that anyone can access anytime. A time capsule is something (objects or information) sealed away that no one can access (intentionally or not) that at some future date (pre-set or not) is opened for the purpose of historical revelation about the time when the capsule was sealed. http://www.findthetimecapsule.com fails on this definition on almost every count. As does archive.org .. I think people use the term by analogy to describe things on the Internet (even this page has a "History" tab which could by analogy be called a "time capsule", but it's not a time capsule by definition). The 1989 Oxford English Dictionary defines a time capsule as "a container used to store for posterity a selection of objects thought to be representative of life at a particular time." The International Time Capsule Society agrees. As does William Jarvis (2002). Time Capsules: A Cultural History. ISBN 0786412615
--Stbalbach 05:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Does this count - Time Netsule (http://www.timenetsule.com) 86.130.97.208 22:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
See discussion below electronic time capsule. I'm really not sure what to make of these Internet services as they are analogous but not exactly time capsules. I would like to see what a reliable and verifiable source says about it before adding to the article. Until them I'm concerned about the promotional aspect of adding company services to the article and giving them legitimacy without a verifiable source. -- Stbalbach 13:54, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Electronic time capsule

Electronic time capsule is a new website that I think shoud be added to the time capsule article. You send text,video,audio messages to a specific person in a specific date in the future. Yes it is a subscription based service but it is one of a kind.This may seem like spam or self promo but the reality is that I believe that this new service deserves to be added to the Time capsule article. www.electronictimecapsule.com The traditional time capsule concept polished up for the 21st century. Tell me what you think and if it should or not be in the Time capsule article. Kanucme 17:42, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it should be added. For one, it's a commercial service. For another, it's a "time capsule" by analogy, but it's not really a time capsule. The information is not sealed away where no one can get to it, it's simply stored by someone -- kind of like a will kept in a lawyers vault. It's a service you pay someone to maintain information for you until a set date. It's not a new kind of time capsule because it's not really a time capsule at all, except by analogy or for marketing purposes. -- Stbalbach 16:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Since Electronic time capsule is a new service where should it be added. Is there a place for this service in this Encyclopedia? If not what happends? Thank you. Kanucme 19:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I don't know. Not every service or company is noteworthy for Wikipedia. You could try creating a Wikipedia article about the company (but I think it would be nominated for deletion - depending how well it was written). If you disagree, and think it should be part of this article, you could start the Wikipedia:Resolving disputes track, such as Wikipedia:Third opinion or Wikipedia:Requests for comment or Wikipedia:Straw polls. I really do think though that this service is not a time capsule (as defined by verifiable sources), and is just a commercial service, such as what a lawyer might provide, which is using the term time capsule by analogy for sales and marketing purposes. -- Stbalbach 22:51, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yahoo Time Capsule

should we add information about Yahoo Time Capsule?? http://timecapsule.yahoo.com

202.154.30.27 - October 11

A dedicated article now exist (created in november) : Yahoo! Time Capsule available through the category. Ultrogothe 09:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First Modern Time Capsule

The claim that the first 'modern' timecapsule was laid in 1937 seems wrong. An article in the German Wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%BCrkenkaserne) on a barracks built in Munich Germany mentions a time capsule buried in its foundations in 1823. Sejtam 14:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree - There was a time capsule buried under Nelsons Column in Trafalgar sq in the early 19th century. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.238.184.177 (talk) 12:24, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ozymandias Project

Chem teacher (talk) 17:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC) The reference to the Ozymandias Project was removed because it was “not notable” as no other web pages referenced it. It is actually referenced by http://www.longnow.org/views/links/educational/ which is a page of the Long Now Foundation which is dedicated to instilling long term thinking. If you access the “history of project “ link, you will see that Carl Sagan, the Smithsonian museum, and the museum of Natural History found the project notable enough to consider doing it. Chem teacher (talk) 21:29, 7 March 2008 (UTC)Links to the "History of the project" on the main web page now detail Carl Sagan’s proposal to place the Ozymandias project in earth orbit.