Talk:Ticinese

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Why has this article been marked for speedy deletion as patent nonsense? To me it seems that it has been written by some expert. There are even references to bibliography.

It was just silly vandalism. The user has been blocked, but has returned under yet another AOL IP. There's a group of us who have been fighting it for the last 18 hours or so. —chris.lawson (talk) 18:52, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sounds better. I agree that this is just a stub, but after doing research about Lombard varieties for some 15 years I feel rather sure that I am able to write something more than "patent nonsense" :-) --Jorgengb 19:08, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Can Ticinese be a dialect of Lombard rather than less than a dialect ? Which are the parallel forms of Lombard ?

Sarcelles 02:57, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ticinese is just a practical definition to say "Lombard dialect spoken in Ticino". Ticinese dialects can be very different. Ticinese is not a particular dialect. If on the other hand we say "Ticinese koiné", then, yes, it is a particular dialect with many variations. Take 2 points on the map, one lying in Ticino and one in the Grisons, with -- say -- just a few km (and no mountain ranges) between them. They will be very similar or almost identical. The same applies to 2 points, one in Ticino and one in (Italian) Lombardy. Take, on the other hand, places comparatively far away (although still within Ticino) and the dialects will be very different.--Jorgengb 13:00, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)