Talk:Thuluth

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[edit] What...?!

I have removed the following for being irrelevant. Thuluth belongs to the medieval era and is temporally far from whatever origins the Arabic script has. Anyway; The section I removed, as you can see, is just a big, unverified, unreadable bulk of words. I would call it nonsense! (That is; at least as much as the Thuluth is concerned) -- AMSA83

"To follow-up with the above: The Thuluth calligraphy proves the origins of the current Arabic calligraphy, by opposition to the Aramaic/Hebrew alphabet, which was the original Arabian alphabet. These origins are clearly the Greek alphabet written from right-to-left, instead of the Greek which is written from left-to-right. Take the Alfa, which is initially an Arabic word meaning the animal feed trough, shaped like a capital A, Alaf. The Greek Alpha is written without a long vertical shaft like in Arabic. The letter Beta is also Arabic meaning the House with one window and one door. The Gamma (supposed to have the shape of a Camel) is written from left-to-right, but if you write it from right-to-left you will find the Thuluth Jeem. The Greek Delta (Dalat in Arabic) written from left-to-right in small and in Capital like a triangle. In thuluth Arabic when you write it from right-to-left you find the same letter as in Greek. The Greek Eta (H) when written from left-to-right finds itself shaping the Arabic Thuluth as the Letter Ha as the combination of two semi-concentric rounds. Try it and see. The Greek Omega in its small shape is the same as the Arabic Waw. The Greek Ro written from left-to-right has the same shape as the Thuluth Ra and is supposed to shape the neck and the head (Raas or Rosh) of a camel. It still has the starting "head" to mark the origin of Ro. The Greek Sigma, small letter, if written from left-to-right is the same Seen (teeth in Arabic) in Thuluth. the other dented shape of Seen also reminds the Greek capital Sigma. The Greek Epsilon (E) also has the same features as the Arabic 'Ayn all without making the same "loops". The Arabic "hamza" (Hiatus) has the same use as the guttural Ayn (Eye in Arabic) and is written in Greek just like the Epsilon. The Greek Kappa shapes exactly the human hand with fingers meaning the Kaff in Arabic, which is closely related to the Greek X as being the kaaf in thuluth. The Grrek Mu also written from left-to-right shapes the same thuluth Arabic Meem written from right-to-left. It is important to say here that contrary to the common Arabic thought that the Meem is a "loop", it is not, just figure the Greek Mu and you will find what the Meem means. The Greek Nu also finds itself is the thuluth calligraphy shaping itself like the Greek Nu. The Noon later transformed itself into the current semi-circle with a dot. the above does not mean that the Greek alphabet copied the Arabic alphabet, but we can say that the Arabic by copying the Greek, was borrowing from its own origins. This process must have happened in the first centuries of the Anno Domini when the Mecca annual Hajj "fair" illustrated the Poetry competition (Mu'allakaat) in that form of writing. That must have happened in those centuries before Islam. When Islam came, calligraphers were still using the old Kufi style, that was easily replaced by the "new" writing for its ease and practicality. Nonetheless, let us remember that the Greek culture dominated the Middle east from the third century B.C. to the late sixth century despite the coming of the Romans who could not impose their alphabet on the East Mediterranean, as the Greek did. Let us think of the genius of those Arab scholars who adapted the Greek calligraphy to the complications and contortions of the Arabic language and writing. This is the reason why we cannot conceive the fact that the Aramaic/Hebrew alphabet, which is the ancient Alphabet of the region, could be used in writing the complex Arabic poetry, and obviously not the Kur'an. The Aramaic/Hebrew writing must have disappeared from writing Arabic long before the coming of Islam. Calligraphy is the secret that can decipher the origins of the Arabic alphabet. Noureddine 01:45, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Style

Hi, I have made a "major" change, and included the Ottoman influences into modern day Sülüs or Thuluth. I would be delighted to answer any question you might have, feel free to drop me a line! Cheers! --Eae1983 (talk) 19:03, 21 February 2008 (UTC)