Talk:Thomas Winning

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[edit] Page Move

Before moving the article again, please read Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Western clergy). Thanks. Gentgeen 22:09, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Before moving this article again please read the top of the official policy on WP:NAME. Generally, article naming should give priority to what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature. Another way to summarize the overall principle of Wikipedia's naming conventions: Names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors; and for a general audience over specialists.

See, here's the thing. No-one outside specialists ever referred to Tom Winning as 'Thomas Cardinal Winning'. He is invariable known as Tom Winning, Cardinal Winning, or Thomas Winning

• Google "Thomas Cardinal Winning" = 48 hits (NOT impressive) [1]
• Google "'Thomas Winning' and Cardinal" = 9,450 [2]
• Google "Cardinal Winning" = 17,200 [3]
• BBC obituary 'Cardinal Thomas Winning' [4]
• His own Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Glasgow 'Thomas Joseph Winning' or 'Cardinal Winning' [5]

I'd say that's pretty conclusive. Your western clergy guideline is obviously not in conformity with policy - perhaps you should update it?. --Doc 23:09, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] His Eminence

Do we need to put the title "His Eminence" before every bishop's name on Wikipedia? Catholics may choose to do so, but this doesn't sound very secular/encyclopedic to me. Allowing this practice seems a bit like allowing Muslims to put the phrase "Peace be upon him" after every mention of a prophet. -- Big Brother 1984 18:21, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

'Eminence' is a title for cardinals only. Ulysses54 13:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Agreed it is unneccessary.--Doc^g 13:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)