Talk:Thomas G. Barnes

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It's not correct, IMO, to say that Barnes

"laid a foundation for the Toroidal Ring Model developed by David L. Bergman and the gravitational and Universal Force Law work of Charles W. Lucas, Jr."

which (to my ear) implies that this was somehow mainstream work which scientists followed up on: like "Michael Faraday laid a foundation for the electromagnetism of James Clerk Maxwell" or perhaps (since Wikipedia does contain notable non-mainstream theories) "Mordehai Milgrom laid the foundation for Tensor-vector-scalar gravity".

Bergman and Lucas's models are unheard of except on their own Web pages; they are WP:NN, WP:OR, WP:RS, and WP:FRINGE. You wouldn't begin the page on Rene Blondlot by saying, "Blondlot's work laid the foundation for Fred Smith's search for N-ray-based perpetual motion in his garage in Piscataway". Bm gub (talk) 16:44, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


Barnes's work is regarded as pseudoscience by some establishment scientists, but not all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GregVolk (talkcontribs) 15:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)