User talk:The PIPE

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I got your message. The information you gave me, along with any references for it, ought to be added to the article then--if some level of notability can be demonstrated, I have no objections to the article.

The reason that I, and other editors, often flag borderline cases with {{notability}} tags is many users attempt to create articles in the encyclopedia about themselves, their friends, their band, etc; in most cases, these people aren't noteworthy in the slightest. Wikipedia is not the white pages, after all. Unfortunately, some subjects which are deserving of articles get tagged as questionable, especially if it isn't clearly documented why the subject is notable. Keep in mind--Wikipedia is for a general audience; articles shouldn't assume the reader is familiar with a particular subject, such as aviation history.

Good luck,

--EngineerScotty 02:44, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Welcome

Welcome to Wikipedia! It's always a pleasure to have another editor join—we can never have too many good editors.

Some useful stuff/Things to remember:

Cheers and good luck, Ingoolemo talk 23:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bristol Scout

Awarded by Ingoolemo for the large article on the Bristol Scout, written from scratch.
Awarded by Ingoolemo for the large article on the Bristol Scout, written from scratch.

Thanks for working so hard on that article. It's rare around here that a large article is written from scratch by a new contributor. To acknowledge your contribution, I have awarded you the Wikiwings, the official reward of WikiProject Aircraft. Ingoolemo talk 20:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wagner Reference

FYI, this is the correct reference note:

  • Wagner, Ray and Nowarra, Heinz. German Combat Planes: A Comprehensive Survey and History of the Development of German Military Aircraft from 1914 to 1945. New York: Doubleday, 1971.

FWIW Bzuk 16:53, 12 August 2007 (UTC).

[edit] 210/410

Can you explain how the double-angle leading edge was the cause of all the problems on the 210? Everything I have read suggests it was the too-short tail and wide cockpit area. Maury 21:49, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Me 210 wing angle debacle...

Dear Maury:

The PIPE here...thanks for your reply.

I noticed the diffreence in 210-vs-410 wing leading edge angle in the three-views in my copy of the book 'Hitler's Luftwaffe", an early-1980s era (I think) book on "the Mad Austrian's" (what my German Email buddy Jens Klank-the Webmaster of http://www.biplanes.de/ -has said what many modern Germans have nicknamed the despised Nazi leader) air force, shows the double-angle wing leading edge angle on the 3-view of the 210, and like the 410 Hornisse's 3-view now viewable on Wikipedia, your 3-view of the 410 shows but a SINGLE angle going from root-to-tip. That HAD to be a contributing influence on the better flying characteristics that the 410 had...true, it WAS only one of many changes that Messerschmitt AG had to make on the failed 210 design, but it is noticeable, and right where the 210's troublesome automatic wing leading edge slots were located!

I've also seen the unique turret aiming setup the rear gunner had in the 210 & 410...in a showing of the "Wings of the Luftwaffe" series on the Discovery Military Channel, a WW II era German training film meant to familiarize Luftwaffe personnel with the features of the "new Zerstorer" they were about to get, clearly showed the handgun grip and trigger being used to train the guns throughout their firing arcs, while the 210 or 410 was parked on the ground.

I've also got a CONSIDERABLE amount of information on World War I aircraft...it's my main area of aviation interest...Pioneer era (1903-1914) and "golden age" aircraft between the Wars also score well, and I've got some serious interest in WW II aviation.

The pioneering efforts in 1915 through 1918, of Hugo Junkers, the original innovator of metallic aircraft construction materials near the dawn of aviation (almost exactly as Burt Rutan, with his revolutionary composite materials for aerospace, is considered to be today) are something I've been interested in for a VERY long time now...and an article written from scratch, just like my Bristol Scout Wikipedia article, will be coming, on the very first all-metal fighter aircraft to be produced in quantity...the JUNKERS D.I. This article IS something I've wanted to do on Wikipedia, seeing as though I've got so much info accumulated on it, for a future Radio Control quarter scale flying model of it...the model will even have real scale corrugated aluminum covering, exactly as the full scale aircraft had so distinctively been covered with.

Thank you for your reply...

Yours Sincerely,

The PIPE!

Sorry, I'm going to have to remove the content in question. As you stated, "That HAD to be a contributing influence". Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but it's definitely original research either way. If you can find cooberating evidence in a referenceable 3rd party source then the material can remain, but until that time it's just not suitable. Maury 12:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
BTW, you might want to experiment with the "minor" button on checkins. Things like spelling or minor grammar should be marked M. Maury 12:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Junkers J1

Hi there - yes, it would be great to have an article on this aircraft, but you don't need mine or anyone else's approval to create one; just click on the redlink above and get started! Cheers --Rlandmann (talk) 03:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Luftstreitkräfte

Hi, thank you for making edits in this article. I was under the impression that the distinction you noted only came in in the final months of the war, and would appreciate if you could supply references. Cheers--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 02:25, 3 May 2008 (UTC)