Talk:The Vampira Show

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Is the kinescope discussed in the article of an actual show? I've been told that it was a recreation that the cast and crew did for a sales film produced by KABC-TV using the script from that show in 1954.Nitelinger 16:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is the existing "Vampira" footage actually a kinescope?

It is indeed possible that the known existing footage of the "Vampira" show was re-shot for purposes of inclusion in the presentation film that it was subsequently discovered in-- however, as the footage was re-shot shortly after the original live broadcast on the same studio set, using the station's video cameras and kinescope apparatus to record the output, the resultant footage is (for all intents and purposes) the equivalent of what it is represented to be.

-Kevin Segura, LiveFeed Video Imaging

--Rerunmedia 07:17, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I've seen the footage, which appeared on a couple of KABC programs. It was a part of the sales film. It is certainly representative of what the show was(and all that apparently exists), but it was not a recording of an actual broadcast show. I'm not trying to reduce the historical significance of the footage, but rather simply trying to ascertain if what I was told (by someone who apparently funded part of the restoration) is true. Nitelinger 19:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I have no reason to doubt that story, given the source of the information... who I assume got the story directly from Ms. Nurmi. It's practically the only way it makes sense for the footage to exist in the first place, as there was no incentive for KABC to have kinescoped the original broadcast, since the show was not being syndicated anywhere. The only reason it **might** have been done was at the request of a sponsor, in order to verify that their ad spots were aired.

And, since the original live broadcast was 5 years before I was born, I really can't definitively state that the footage is **not** from the original airing... but again, since the existing footage is clearly electronically-generated, kinescoped video, shot shortly afterward on the set at KABC, and using the episode's original script, well... I think in this case, "a difference which makes no difference is no difference."

But that's just me-- everyone else's mileage may vary.  :^)

-Kevin Segura, LiveFeed Video Imaging

--Rerunmedia 19:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't know if it's a kinoscope or directly filmed, but claiming it's the show itself isn't right.MartinSFSA (talk) 06:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction?

This article states:

Ten years after The Vampira Show's first broadcast, ABC aired The Addams Family. The character of Morticia Addams (portrayed by Carolyn Jones), was modeled on Nurmi's Vampira character.

While the Vampira article states:

Nurmi herself claimed that Vampira's image was in part based on the Charles Addams New Yorker cartoon character "Morticia Addams", though she told BOXOFFICE Magazine in 1994 that she had intentionally deviated from Addams' mute and flat-chested creation, making her own TV character "campier and sexier" to avoid plagiarizing Addams' idea.

Is this a contradiction? Was the character of Vampira based on Morticia Addams or was it the other way around? Devil Master (talk) 14:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)