Talk:The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson

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1 Vandalism
2 Subsection instead of separate article?
3 "Full" list of guests?
4 Suggestion about guest list below
5 List of guests
6 Fair use rationale for Image:Johnsurprise.jpg
7 Fair use rationale for Image:LetCarWap2.jpg
8 Fair use rationale for Image:MoreToCome.png
9 Fair use rationale for Image:Ed60s.jpg
10 Fair use rationale for Image:Johnnyteresa2.jpg
11 Image copyright problem with Image:Carnac.jpg

[edit] Vandalism

I just noticed that there was a whole line of 5s taking up a line of text. gonna remove it now. -mike

   -UPDATE: i also found Jascha Heifetz link ruined, i repaired it.

[edit] Subsection instead of separate article?

This article seems well-written, but shouldn't it be a sub-section of either The Tonight Show or Johnny Carson? If we make an article devoted to Carson's version of the show, won't pages dedicated to the other three hosts also need to be created and maintained? Also, why isn't Jay Leno listed as one of the guest hosts? He hosted on Mondays toward the end of Johnny's time as host before being named as Johnny's successor. Isn't this significant?

At the very least, the article should be expanded--I smell a Request for Merger or Expansion coming. Telestylo 05:29, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

I offered some comments about this topic in Talk:The Tonight Show. As I reviewed the articles that linked to the combined version of The Tonight Show I was amazed by how many of them are Carson-specific. Those references illustrate another reason for having the separate article. There's plenty of precedent for it being separate as well, such as Late Night with David Letterman and Late Night with Conan O'Brien being separate, and The Simpsons being separate from Matt Groening, to name two examples. 66.167.141.83 08:06, 1 October 2005 (UTC).

OK. I think Carson was so identified with "The Tonight Show" that he probably does need his own page. But, so do Steve Allen, Jack Paar (especially Paar), and Jay Leno, and eventually, Conan O'Brien. Also, the "Tonight Show" page itself will need to be reworked to be about the show more generally, with links to each of the pages about the individual hosts. Phew--more work to do! Still need to find out how many time Jay guest hosted before becoming host himself. Telestylo 19:48, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Full" list of guests?

The guest list is useful historically and much appreciated to be sure, but I can think of a couple of things wrong with it: first, it should probably be its own article unto itself, since the show spanned 30 years and included thousands of individual guests. Second: the list as it stands is not "full" and may never be because of the number of episodes which were lost, so for now, I'm just changing the name of the sub-section to "List of guests." But attention needs to be paid to this issue because the list, as good and well-researched as it is, has horribly enlengthened the article. Telestylo 07:05, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Moving the list out of the article ... as Telestylo points out, this list should be in a separate article. I'd also suggest it be organized by date so that the list is easier to verify. 66.167.138.24 08:14, 5 December 2005 (UTC).

The list is next to useless without dates of appearances, at least for the first appearance. Memory plays tricks. Maybe the guest appeared on Jack Paar, or Merve Griffin, or David Letterman. TV Guide is a guide to who was scheduled to appear, but there were many cancellations. 71.228.11.251 04:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion about guest list below

This list of celebs is long enough to constitute a Wikipedia category: Tonight Show (SJC?) Guests. Is there a bot to alphabetize it in the meantime?

Schweiwikist 21:09, 1 April 2006 (UTC) (hiyo!)

[edit] List of guests

The following is a partial list of individuals who appeared on the show. It is currently not in any particular order.

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Johnsurprise.jpg

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