Talk:The Summit League

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Contents 1 School type/religious affiliation 2 Logo Removal 3 Ole Miss vs. Mississippi 4 Conference Tournament 5 "Summit League" vs "The Summit League" 6 Name change 7 Midwestern vs. Horizon in Former Members section 8 Valparaiso

[edit] School type/religious affiliation

The religious affiliation or designation as "non-sectarian" is not so clear cut. For example, Duke University describes its ties with Methodism as "formal, on-going, and symbolic" [1] while Wake Forest maintains "a dedication to the values rooted in its Baptist heritage" [2]. Both schools can be considered "non-sectarian" in that they are no longer under the direct auspices of their founding religious organizations. Likewise, Boston College maintains its Jesuit identity in spite of the fact that it severed its formal ties with the Jesuit Order (and thereby the Catholic Church) in the 1960s when it was independently incorporated under a lay board of trustees. Unlike the Catholic University of America, which is under the direct auspices of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, or the University of Notre Dame, which is governed by "fellows" who must be priests of the Congregation of Holy Cross, The Trustees of Boston College (BC's governing body) operate independent of any religious jurisdiction. This arrangement is probably similar to that at Duke or Wake Forest, except that the BC trustees have voluntarily chosen to elect members of the founding religious organization to the presidency (though they are not required to do so). In fact, similar arrangements exist at other Jesuit colleges and universities, where both women and non-clerics have been elected to presidency (most recently at Georgetown). All of this is to say that I think the nature of a school's religious affiliation is beyond the scope of this article, and that "public" or "private" suffice in the context of the members table.--24.63.125.78 10:12, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

24.63.125.78 has coppied and pasted this on almost every college conference discussion board. Please refer to Talk:Atlantic Coast Conference so we can keep all the discussion in one place. Thanks. -- Masonpatriot

[edit] Logo Removal

Ed, you are acting unilaterally in your interpretation of policy yet again. There is no consensus in support of the actions you are taking. You are well aware of the ongoing discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Logos#Clarification_on_use_of_sports_team_logos. Johntex\^talk 16:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ole Miss vs. Mississippi

Should the University of Mississippi be referred to as Mississippi like in 1998 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament? Fbdave 00:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Conference Tournament

Perhaps a 2007 Mid-Continent Conference Men's Basketball Tournament article would be valuable. They have conference tournament pages for 2007 Southern Conference Men's Basketball Tournament and 2007 ACC Men's Basketball Tournament.Fbdave 23:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Summit League" vs "The Summit League"

According to this page: http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/stories/051507aaf.html and the logo on that page, it appears that the new league will be called "THE Summit League" as opposed to just the "Summit League".

I also think we should wait until June 1 to move Mid-Con articles and references to TSL references.

Thoughts? X96lee15 18:57, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

This document describes the way the league wants its new name to be referenced. To quote:

On first reference, refer to it as The Summit League. Future references may be shortened to The Summit. Do not refer to the league as TSL or SL.

Since I already created The Summit League article, I do not believe we can move the current page (Summit League) to The Summit League without an admin. X96lee15 19:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

No. Just redirect Summit League to The Summit League starting June 1. --myselfalso 19:12, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name change

While I appreciate the enthusiasm, the fact is that the league's new name takes effect on June 1, and today is May 17. Don't change it until June 1. --fuzzy510 18:36, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Midwestern vs. Horizon in Former Members section

Changing the notation for the former members who jumped to the Horizon League to the (other) MCC was a good idea; it makes sense, insofar as it wasn't yet the Horizon League when they moved, and there seems to be a consistent effort to have such references point to the name of the conference as it was at the time of the move. However, I just reverted the change in regard to Youngstown State only, as they moved to the Horizon in the summer of 2001. This may or may not have been precisely after the name change (which also happened that summer) officially took effect, but I think it's sensible as YSU never played a game as a member of the "Midwestern Collegiate Conference", only the "Horizon League". JFMorse 15:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree with what you're thinking. YSU should be listed as the Horizon. X96lee15 15:25, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Valparaiso

Beginning in 2007 the Valparaiso Crusaders will be competing in the Horizon League. Should they be removed from the roster of the Summit League?

They leave on July 1. At that time, they will be moved. --fuzzy510 00:49, 6 June 2007 (UTC)