Talk:The Shins

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[edit] Whoa, Trish!

Is this an actual songs has anyone heard of it?? if so where can it be heard????

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Moo Cow 10 (talk • contribs) 20:58, 13 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Making it more readable

I am un-wikifying some of the introduction text... Too much blue!

Why does it say "(which isnt as good as people say it is)" after Garden State? is that the persons opinion or is that a line from the movie? Brianchi 01:33, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

That's an opinion. Dieter Weber 07:03, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Critically acclaimed

I think we need to sprinkle some more "critically acclaimed"s in there. Definitely not enough of those. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 137.216.203.71 (talk • contribs).

Yeah, um... I think I am going to hack away at this. says critically acclaimed at least three times in about 100 words.206.21.74.84 03:16, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of band member articles

Recently the individual articles of The Shins band members were redirrected to this page, it has simply been decided that because the stubs aren't currently useful, they should be removed. Wikipedia etiquette would have that some discussion takes place, before a number of articles are effectively removed. Why hasn't this happened? And in regards to the articles actually being redirected, it seems the point of a stub has been missed, they are not held as being complete or even entirely useful, but the idea is that with appropriate contributions they grow over time into informative articles. By redirecting, you prevent this process from occuring. The articles should at least be left alone until there is consensus that they are not useful now, and never will be. The discussion should take place here or on the respective discussion page, but not in the edit summaries!--Brendanfox 06:08, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Right: since the stubs exist, the links should remain, and unless the stub topics are abandoned as too unimportant and deleted, then it makes sense to link to them. —Tarnas 18:32, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't notice this discussion. The articles as they stand are useless to readers, and it is standard procedure to redirect such stubs to the main article. Any experienced editor who comes across one of these pages while browsing random pages or Special:Shortpages will almost automatically redirect them. Unless these pages are expanded they should be turned back to redirects. - SimonP 02:00, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Whilst I agree that it is tidier to have these sort of rough edges removed from Wikipedia, the problem I have is that when pages are redirected, and then their links removed from the article, they are no longer seen and are hence less likely to be expanded and improved upon in the future. I beleive stubs offer encouragement for editors to jump in and contribute something, however small that contribution is. However, if the article is not seen, and not linked to from anywhere, some will believe the topic is not worthy enough to create the article themself, some will feel less comfortable creating a whole new article (although hopefully they then discover the already existent article with redirrect, and add to that), and others will not even consider the possibility. The point I'm making is that whilst wikipedia looks nicer without links to underdeveloped stubs, the cost is that these articles are less likely to be worked on and developed over time. --Brendanfox 12:11, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
It's always a balance between the needs of readers and the needs of editors. Stubs are generally accepted, but with ones such as the Shins' band members there is so little information that they are likely to annoy any readers that come across them. The best solution would be to add a couple sentences to each of the articles, so that they are no longer so short. - SimonP 13:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Alright, I'll try and add some content over the next few days --Brendanfox 01:47, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia problems

The trivia tidbit on "We Will Become Silhouettes" makes no sense. Why is the "cover version" on the Postal Service's record?Tryptofeng 15:22, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

It just is... we don't know why, I guess they just liked it enough to want it on the record. There are many other covers on that album from different bands of Postal Service songs. --84.70.175.215 19:59, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

A lot of bands do that. They like the song, they put it on their album to make the other band more popular, too. Dieter Weber 07:02, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Is it Flakemusic or Flake Music? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.136.35.157 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Image

The fair use justification for the picture of the band currently used here seems pretty dubious to me. It's apparently a still from a video. It ought to be possible to take a free-use picture of them. I saw them do an in-store the other day, but couldn't get close enough to get a proper band picture; I did get some half-decent pics of James Russell Mercer, which I will upload some time in the next few weeks. But surely someone can get close enough to them to get a proper photo. - Jmabel | Talk 08:07, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Uploaded. Commons category added to external links. Nothing great, I'm afraid: I was shooting at about 18-20 meters through a crowd to a not terribly well-lit stage. I'll let someone else decide whether any of these are worth using in the article. - Jmabel | Talk 23:48, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Member

Why is there nothing about the new member? 64.113.127.159 05:51, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Fighting in a Sack.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Know Your Onion.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:The-Shins-New-Slang-285279.jpg

Image:The-Shins-New-Slang-285279.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 06:15, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


There should be some mention of Garden State. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.216.28 (talk) 05:55, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] signed to sub pop

How come the section named "Signed to Sub-Pop" doesn't actually mention the signing?!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.183.135.40 (talk) 17:19, 24 February 2008 (UTC)