Talk:The Rose of Versailles

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[edit] Rose of Versailles movie 2007

Should there be a section on the movie that TOEi announced would be released in 2007? Not much is known at this pint but a promotional poster has been released...Ohtori akio

Where have you found that information??? Armando (talk|contribs) 01:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Here's the info, though it is in French http://blog.cyna.net/index.php?topic=4533.0 A poster is available on the page. --Ohtori akio 08:27, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
The comments section of that French article eventually leads to http://www.aniradi.com/report/taf2006/toei1.php which appears to be a report on the con where the movie was announced. This is the closest thing to a source I've been able to find. Sunshine Cantabile 17:13, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

What I'm suggesting is mostly cleanup in the form of correcting the many spelling and gramatical mistakes present throughout the article. I'm also hoping to get information for more of the characters and to add more of the minor characters to the lists.

I know everything about the characters and I speak very well english , but not perfect. I have tried to contribute with everything what I know, but I would need somebody to help me in the orthography. Armando (talk|contribs) 21:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
That is no problem, I'm sure that everyone appreciates anything that you can contribute to the page. -- ChibiViqor 9/15/06
I'm trying to clean up the article, but there're parts that are frankly unintelligible and of which I can neither make head nor tail. Anyone care to parse these?
"''Many people know that she is a woman, but she does not pretend it, as much in his aspect as in his treatment."
"Jeanne told her that she had the royal Valois blood." (Uhm... is she told she has royal blood, or does she tell herself, or does the marquis inform her?)
"After Charlotte, true sister of Rosalie, died, Lady Polignac went to the Jarjayes's Mansion and told Rosalie that if she didn't come with her, she would tell the autorities that Oscar was the protector of Jeanne Valois', the instigator of the robbery of the diamond necklace, sister." (???)
Incidentally, many bits of information about some of the characters and events are rather redundant, since they correspond to the real-world versions anyway. --Winterfox 19:08, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
It's:
Although many people knew that she was woman, she didn't pretend to be it, as much in her appearance as in her attitude.
Jeanne told she had...
I dunno what's wrong in "After Charlotte..."
Armando (talk|contribs) 14:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Imperial Guard"

Because of the term's Napoleonic implications and since France at the the time the story was set in was a monarchy, the more appropriate term here is either Royal or Palace Guard, so I've changed all instances of "Imperial Guard" to "Royal Guard." However if "Palace Guard" is more appropriate, feel free to change it to this. --BrokenSphere 21:41, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

I changed the picture to the right becuase putting it on the left, left a big empty space in the article.Angel,Isaac 16:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Title Standardization

I've noticed that this article and the sub articles frequently mix the Japanense title "Rose of Versailles" with the European title, "Lady Oscar." I propose that first, only one title be used for all the of the articles to prevent confusion, and that the original title be used per Wikipedia standards, because the manga was released in English with the "Rose of Versailles" moniker and the English title is what Wikipedia defers to. For example, "Characters in Lady Oscar" should be changed to "Characters in Rose of Versailles." Rebochan 16:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

That Sounds like a good idea, and one that will certainly help with the cleanup needed in this article. -- ChibiViqor 18 January 2007
Yeah, sounds good. I'm moving List of Lady Oscar characters to The Rose of Versailles characters. Armando.O (talk|contribs) 22:56, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Impossible. Redirection pages alredy exist. Armando.O (talk|contribs) 23:01, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rose of Versailles (manga) to Berusaiyu no Bara (manga)

Please support the move of the RoV (manga) to BnB (manga), cuz it's the real name of the manga. Check here. Armando.Otalk • Ev 14:37, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Rosalie l.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plot summary

The plot summary seems to be only 470 words or so, so I've removed the {{plot}} tag. --Tony Sidaway 02:24, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Four articles?

Why is The Rose of Versailles divided in four articles (The Rose of Versailles, The Rose of Versailles (manga) and The Rose of Versailles (anime) and Berusaiyu no Bara Gaidens) when everything could be covered in just one? See Wikipedia:VN#Good articles for some examples.--Nohansen (talk) 01:48, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually it is great to have separate articles for all different versions of the franchise because both manga and anime versions have their own souls and art-styles in themselves. On the other hand, if the data would be this limited in, for example, the manga's article, it is useless to have multiple articles. Imho, manga and anime should keep their own articles and to be revised and expanded by Wikipedians. Rose of Versailles was one of the first animes which I saw on the Turkish television. Of course, officials weren't aware of the art and maturity in the anime, they were thinking that it was just another cartoon for the children :) Deliogul (talk) 18:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
That's cool (about the different versions having "their own souls and art-styles"), but the Animanga Manual of Style says "do not create separate articles for a different medium belonging to the same franchise, unless: 1. They differ sharply in plot, characters, or in other major characteristics; or 2. The article becomes too large." Looking at the three spin-off articles, it seems neither of the conditions have been met.--Nohansen (talk) 05:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
I'd think that the first condition would be met in the case of the Gaiden article - it seems to be a sequel to RoV, and introduces a new character based on myths of Elizabeth Bathory. The plot consists of Oscar etc. trying to escape from this character's clutches. -Malkinann (talk) 21:59, 14 March 2008 (UTC)