Talk:The Place Promised in Our Early Days

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Contents 1 Article Title 2 Sayuri surviving? 3 Sayuri might have died.. 4 Allusions section

[edit] Article Title

Since, as stated in the article, the official English title of this film is "The Place Promised in Our Early Days", the article should be moved to that title. Shiroi Hane 15:57, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

I wholeheartedly agree. There are way too many articles with the foreign name issue. Like Indigo Prophecy linking to Fahrenheit (video game). -- Psi edit 18:17, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sayuri surviving?

Surely as she is in the same plane as Hiroki, and that she is plainly seen alive at the end of the film, how can it be doubted that she survives? Granted she was linked to the tower, but only as a barrier to its power. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.229.216.25 (talk • contribs) 14:51, April 27, 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. Sayuri appears in the last shot and there is no evidence that she did not survive. The part of the article suggesting that she died is speculation, and without being backed by citations and sources, should be removed (I have done so). —Lowellian (reply) 23:12, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Fully agreed. The movie suggests she stayed alive, telling the story in her voice from a much later time. She can be seen so, and, while really losing something, it is not her life. Her possible death is just a speculation, and is not to be included here, especially in this form. CP/M ^comm |Wikipedia Neutrality Project| 23:45, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I concur —Preceding unsigned comment added by JyL (talk • contribs) 14:41, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sayuri might have died..

Questions... where the hell was she in the beginning of the movie when he was on the train and went to their hideout area???? why does he look all sad and why does he remember sayuri's younger self running past him??? it clearly looks like he is much older, more like an adult in the begining. User: noob1 time: 7:36pm wednesday, february 28th 2007(noob time code)

I agree that Sayuri might have died. As mentioned, at the beginning when we see Hiroki he is much older and when he talks about Sayuri its as if she died and has a vision of a young Sayuri running by him. Almost as if he is remembering a dead person. She probably was alive at the end of the film (ie when they blew up the tower), but may have died later on, giving rise to the depressed looking Hiroki at the beginning of the film which is probably set at a much later date (after they blew up the tower).

Wondering of your opinions on the beginning segment.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Clefable (talk • contribs) 01:52, 7 March 2007 (UTC).

Sayuri *might* have died, but I think, given the tone of the end of the movie, that it is unlikely. As for the start, I think that the visual is probably set during the three years when Hiroki did not know where Sayuri was (indeed, it may be a dream sequence). The voice-over, on the other hand, is later, since it is certainly after the war. In short, I think that the voice-over is Hiroki reflecting on his time of loneliness.

You can speculate all you like, people, but this is not the place for it. The important thing is: there is nothing said or shown in the film that clearly suggests that Sayuri dies, and there are a million other reasons for Hiroki looking sad while visiting the air field. So there is no way we're going to write any of this into the article. -- Imladros (talk) 16:35, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Allusions section

From the article:

"Although it was never explained in explicit details regarding the physical and mental attachment between Sayuri and the Tower, it was strongly hinted to be influenced by genetic reasons. Not only was it stated that the Tower was the creation of her grandfather, but in a shot at the end showing the destruction of the Tower within Takuya's line of sight, the skeletal support of the building can be clearly seen to be double-helix in shape, a reference to DNA."

Is it just me, or does seem rather bogus and poor evidence of the claim made? Also, if you've seen the movie you'd notice that the inside of the tower is definitely NOT in the shape of a double helix so much as just random swirling upward. Like I said, though, even if it were, the "evidence" provided doesn't really seem to support the claim much. Considering the rest of the movie, I can't really see the tower being some sort of giant reconstruction of her DNA or something, made long before she was ever born for some pretty much magical purpose in the future. Dfsghjkgfhdg (talk) 19:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't call it bogus ... I'd call it speculative bullshit, just like the stuff about Sayuri dying. Vote for speedy deletion of that paragraph. -- Imladros (talk) 16:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Original Research. Take it out. Fox816 (talk) 21:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)