Talk:The Next Iron Chef

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[edit] Contestant Progress table added

I added a contestant progress table and moved the "judges" section to be more consistent with the Top Chef (Season 3) article. I forgot I wasn't logged in when I saved the table, so it's under my IP address.

I'm not completely clear on how the competition is structured-- in episode one, the chairman referred to "eight challenges". Is he referring to eight total challenges, or eight elimination challenges? I struggled a bit on whether or not the non-elimination challenges should be on the table... if they're considered part of the eight, I think they should be there; otherwise, they shouldn't.

Other things I considered:
1. using the challenges' names instead of numbers on the table (a bit too wide, in my opinion)
2. using a different background color for the elimination challenge numbers (red instead of dark gray, but ONLY on the challenge number, not the whole column)
3. adding "HIGH" and "LOW" for contestants who were obviously safe from elimination vs. those who were obviously in jeopardy, but the show doesn't make this as clear (at least for "HIGH"s) as Top Chef does
4. using only contestants' first names on the table (but unlike Top Chef, almost every reference to the chef's name includes the last name, such as Alton Brown calling out "Chef Sanchez!" for adding to his dish after time had expired in episode 1, challenge 2).

Also, for anyone else who edits the table, please keep the contestants in order by last name unless they have been eliminated.
-Kcowolf 08:17, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Low

Sinec there is usually two chefs that are considered the judges least favorite dshes, could we include the one that did not lose as in the low category? 70.127.22.135 13:52, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Table, Results

I edited the table to move the eliminated chefs below the others. Were the two chefs eliminated at the same time (i.e. both at the end of the episode)? I didn't get to watch this time.

Also, under results, I suggest that instead of "Round one", "Round two", and then "Challenge 1" "Challenge 2", etc. under each round, that instead we change it to "Episode 1", "Episode 2", and then number all the challenges the same way they're numbered on the table. It would look like this:

[edit] Episode 1

Challenge 1: Speed

summary, winner

Challenge 2: Artistry

summary, winner, eliminated

[edit] Episode 2

Challenge 3: Simplicity

summary, winner

Challenge 4: Innovation

summary, winner, eliminated

...and so on. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

-Kcowolf 04:38, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree with this structure. A standard naming convention will be easier to follow and help to relate the summaries to the table. Larkworb 16:43, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

It's nice. but I think we should do bold for a subject on there and then the text. Any thoughts? Michael Houang 06:43, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You don't need to watch the show to figure out who is eliminated.

Car Commercials airing on Food Network spoils who will be eliminated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rouge2 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 22 October 2007 (UTC) I thought so as well, but ep. 5 doesn't follow this pattern. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.84.255.170 (talk) 00:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Added bullets to episode descriptions, readded comments to table

I added bullets to the episode descriptions, mostly to match better with the Top Chef articles.

Somewhere along the line the comments in the contestant progress table got lost. I couldn't remember if I'd originally put them in or not, hence the edit summary. -Kcowolf 05:39, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spoiler tags, episode numbers

The table doesn't show winners for future episodes-- the numbers that were at the top refer to challenges. Challenge 5 was part of episode 3, which is the last one that aired.

That said, it looks like the table has been a bit confusing with only challenge numbers. I added episode numbers, but I'd appreciate some input on how it looks. Thanks.

-Kcowolf 23:04, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Table colors

Not sure who changed the table colors... I wouldn't mind getting other people's opinions on them. The original colors were there to match the Top Chef tables, and I don't really like the new colors that much. Any thoughts, anyone? -Kcowolf 03:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lead statements

There is a statement at the end of the lead that mentions that the winner is to replace on of the other Iron Chefs and cites a section on Bobby Flay's website that when I went through it did not state anything to this effect. What I did find in the "News" section of his site was a mention that the winner would be joining the rest of the already established Iron Chefs with no mention of anyone leaving. I also removed the information about Mario Batali as it had nothing to do with this show, it is on his personal article which is where it should stay.--Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC 07:53, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Bobby Flay indicated that an Iron Chef was leaving in the "Ask Bobby" section of his website on 9/17/07. Unfortunately, the design of this section causes previous questions to drop off the list as more questions are asked, so the text of his statement is no longer displayed on the site. He did not indicate which chef was leaving although, based on other reports and the final episode, it seems like it is Mario Batali. However, Food Network has stated that he will continue to appear on Iron Chef. Larkworb 19:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More info about why those who were eliminated

Can it be worked in somehow, illuminate as to why the competing chefs were eliminated? For example, the judges felt that Morou couldn't "tie" a dish together because he kept putting items on small piles on the plate. He didn't take that into consideration for the next challenge and was eliminated. Joemaza 23:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)