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[edit] salir for peter

what is "a hunter who quickly becomes the salir for peter" I'm not sure what that means and if it is correct (which I doubt) it needs a period at the end.

[edit] is it a novel?

I am not sure about this being a novel. The earlier editions are 48 pages long, which is short story length. wonders if there was some kind of padding involved to make it go past the 100 page size later on? AlainV 04:12, 2004 Apr 29 (UTC)

Should the Predator movies be listed as a variation of this theme? (I ask because I haven't seen the movies or read the story but what I've heard of both suggests a match.) -- Logotu 20:05, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Merging or diversifying?

Human hunting relates to this book and genre. Thinking of cutting the last half of the article to it.--sin-man 04:10, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This article is terrible

This article is very poor. Somebody please redo it.

I AGREE!!

this suck —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.133.121.60 (talk) 03:21, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

With your masterly command of English ("this suck"), surely you are the very best candidate for the job! Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk / cont) 03:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Do we need a "Criticism" section?

Aside from the semantic problem with the title--"criticism" as fault finding or "criticism" as interpretation?--the kind of plot-holes currently discussed in the section seem to me outside the scope of critical commentary about the story (I know of none, but . . . ) that might be worth a mention and a reference, but I'd propose deleting this section as it currently stands. Objections, anyone?

ABVR 05:27, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rainsford did not fall off the boat

I'm pretty sure that Rainsford did not fall off the boat, but the boat he was on crashed on the rocks that General Zaroff had placed chanel markers on.

No. "Rainsford sprang up and moved quickly to the rail, mystified. He strained his eyes in the direction from which the reports had come, but it was like trying to see through a blanket. He leaped upon the rail and bBOOOOO- YYYYAAAAAAalanced himself there, to get greater elevation; his pipe, striking a rope, was knocked from his mouth. He lunged for it; a short, hoarse cry came from his lips as he realized he had reached too far and had lost his balance. The cry was pinched off short as the blood-warm waters of the Caribbean Sea closed over his head."

--mweiler 04:13, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

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It says it was written in 1924, but my literature book says 1925.


You have to remember, though, that the story said immediatly afterward that he screamed at the receding sight of the yacht multiple times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.130.45 (talk) 02:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

this means that he saw the boat going into the distance. he does NOT mean sinking.

[edit] Cossack or Nobleman?

The article describes Zaroff at one point as a cossack, and at another as a nobleman. This is inconsistent - Cossacks were a specific ethnic group that lived in the steps of southern Russia, and who did not have nobles, but rather an odd, unique, militarized society. "Cossack" is not a synonym for "served in the Tsarist army". Is Zaroff actually described as both a nobleman and a cossack, or was this an interpellation by an editor? john k 19:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Just read it for school the other day. Yes, Zaroff is, on multiple occasions referred to as a Cassock, but I don't recall the term nobleman. 19:24, 22 August 2006

It does in fact refer to him as a Cossack and a noblemen('s son). I'm not exactly clear on Russian nobility, so I can't say for sure, but being racially Cossack doesn't necessarily make one culturally Cossack; that is to say, his family could have descended from Cossacks but gained prestige some how with the Tsar and gained a noble rank. 69.29.166.23 02:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Like Dracula?

I don't know why the page says that the General is described similarly to Dracula. Other than both looking like aristocracy, something a lot of "evil" characters have in common, I don't see much similarity. They both have mustaches (but of different styles and even color), and bushy eyebrows. I don't think the similarities make it worth mentioning. But I won't edit it without at least some discussion 69.29.166.23 02:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

It mentions in the story that he has long teeth that look like fangs, so I wouldn't touch it right now. Starmenclock 22:42, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

  • "..his smile showed red lips and pointed teeth.." {The Most Dangerous Game-describing the General}
  • "..The mouth, so far as I could see it under the heavy moustache, was fixed and rather cruel-looking, with peculiarly sharp white teeth..." {Dracula Novel Chapter 2-describing Count Dracula} —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.53.145.208 (talk) 14:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
  • It implies that-like Dracula-the General has a sadistic "taste" for blood lust —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.53.145.191 (talk) 13:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "chelsea is smarter than jonathon"

damn, I can't imagine how stupid Jonathan is..

Yeah, I removed that yesterday. :) Mathnerd314 00:05, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plot Summary?

Should there be a plot summary? Mathnerd314 00:05, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I second this suggestion. --Andrusi 18:02, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I third this suggestion. 216.178.50.38 01:45, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Can we put a link to the text?

It's here: http://eserver.org/fiction/the_most_dangerous_game.html Uthanc 09:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't see why not. I added two "external links". - Rainwarrior 07:28, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too many adaptation references

I think it's time we made an entirely separate article/list based off of the number of adaptations listed here in the article, which contains much more information than on the actual short story in question. God forbid this list grows longer and longer and longer until the short story itself is a brief blurb in a sea of redundant popular culture. Theodorel 08:51, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

It's happened. Is there a good summary that can be restored, or one written? Shouriki 21:50, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two things have to go from this article.

Under the section detailing references in TV on of the bullets claims, "' 'the simpson have a episode were they are hunted im not sure on the name but i was reminded of that story when i saw it"

Within the video games the entire resident evil series is listed with a poor reason. "Many games in the Resident Evil series feature a powerful enemy which stalks the player throughout the game (such as the Nemesis from Resident Evil 3)"


This is my first time contributing. This entry was just too much for me.

67.190.77.252 09:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)Goodman 1/6/07

[edit] Gah! Spoilers!

Unmarked spoilers make me sad: Template:Spoiler The Man with the Golden Gun (1974) ends with a lethal duel between James Bond and an infamous assassin, Francisco Scaramanga, on Scaramanga's private island. Bond wins and the movie ends with him sleeping well in Scaramanga's yacht, with a woman (Britt Ekland). --209.193.46.114 07:54, 29 January 2007 (UTC) Template:Endspoiler

Forewarning anyone who comes across this. ;) --TS1 14:11, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Burmese Tiger Trap?

About the Media:burmese tiger trap Rainsford made during the course of the hunt... Think about it. The tiger trap appears to be about Rainsford's height. He must be like 6' 2" or something, but if he is digging a hole when Media:Zaroff's dogs are chasing him, he must have a ton of time to dig a 6 foot hole and shave Media:spikes and stick them in the bottom. Seems a little unrealistic and out of context, but if he has to dig a trap that big and shave sticks for spikes? Man! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.61.237.133 (talk) 00:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC) hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.98.222 (talk) 03:03, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No discussion of plot

This article does not explain what the basic plot of the novel is. All we pick up is something about a boat having to land on an island.

WikiReaderer 01:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

someone should write a basic summary.

I was just thinking that, my friend. Now, all I have to do is get a copy. I got a loaner from a teacher. I don't have the copy anymore. Time to hit Borders. Love, IceUnshattered (talk) 22:08, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Legacy section tagged as "trivia"

I do not find this section to be trivial. Comparison of plot is common literary process. Bobopaedia 03:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)