Talk:The Jesus and Mary Chain
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[edit] Odds and sods
What the hell is an 'odds and sods' collection? To colloquial brit for use in Wikipedia. Somebody please change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.9.166.7 (talk) 09:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Jesus Suck
the above track was available as an extra track on the 'Never Understand' 12", not the 'Just Honey' single as described in the main text. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clownkev (talk • contribs) 03:11, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
", while it has been humorously suggested that Black Rebel Motorcycle Club have a promising future as a Mary Chain cover band."
- -- Enough of the needless bashing, thanks!
[edit] Shoegazing
I have noticed that the "Shoegazing" genre text has been added and removed a few times on this page. Can we agree something like "...some people say that JAMC were an influential Shoegazing band, while others dispute that". Then we can all just enjoy the music and get on with life.
- Sir or Madam, the Mary Chain were an influential band, however, they are credited with being the first such band out there to play melancholy songs whil staring down (or facing backward), and giving a rather listless live performance. Thus, they are not a shoegazing band, all of the bands that followed them in this mold - are. - Neilm 08:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
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- The problem is that the Mary Chain preceeded the genre. They are its main inspirations, but they aren't of the genre. The genre keeps getting added by the same anonymous user who keeps editing the Neutral Milk Hotel page with a nonexistent genre. WesleyDodds 02:39, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Jimmy Eat World?
JAMC was referenced in "Authority Song" by Jimmy Eat World on Bleed America. "JAMC Automatic: The DJ never has it." Shouldnt this be in the influence section?--Atticus2020 15:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- Atticus, JAMC was a major influence on many bands. Simply becaue there was s shout-out on one album probably does not qualify for inclusion there.
[edit] Use of the short form "Mary Chain"
Does anyone else think that it's potentially confusing to start using the term "the Mary Chain" without making clear that it's a shortened form of the band's name? It might seem obvious to people who already know, but consider band names like "Jefferson Airplane"/"Jefferson Starship"/"Starship," where shortened forms actually refer to different entities. Christopher M 23:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- I refer to them all the time as such, but it is proper to use the full name in an entry.
[edit] Some Candy Talking - Song about drugs?
I have a vague memory of one of the Reid brothers confirming that Some Candy Talking WAS a song about drugs. They denied it at the time and there was a DJ that defended them at the time, but I think on an interview recorded on a picture disc I have they apologise for tricking everyone. I'll have to dig out the Picture Disc and find someone with a record player now!!
It was John Peel who claimed that he was asked by the then controller of BBC Radio 1 if the song was about heroin and said it wasn't (despite knowing that it was).
This raises an issue about the denial quote in this section where it is claimed that Some Candy Talking was banned from "All major radio stations in the UK". At the time ONLY Radio 1 was likely ever to play the JAMC - and they most certainly did play this song, frequently, on the John Peel show.'
But how to prove it?
Bodmass 20:01, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The Sonic Chatedral gig
It says in the article that Jim played "Never understand" at the Sonic Chatedral gig in Oct. 2005. This is NOT the case. Jim had allready left the stage after a disasterous gig with stoped songs and guitars not being in tune(clearly he was to drunk to play). The song was preformed by some guy from the crowd jumping onstage grabbing a guitar. -A.H.
[edit] Fan Site?
Is this site intended to be for fans of The Jesus and Mary Chain or an accurate description of the band and their legacy? That legacy is controversial and it's worth noting the debate, rather than stating only their importance.
[edit] William Reid myspace link
The link to the William Reid myspace site is a different person in the United States.
- i'm sure lots of people change being so far from home —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 17:47, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Singles and EPs table
Hi, some of my changes were partially reverted and tweaked, but I have reverted back to my version, because I don't understand/agree with the tweaks. Let's quickly sort sort it out before needlessly going back and forth. The tweaks and my concerns:
- Specifying font size instead of using the <small> html element adds clutter and seems redundant or am I missing something?
- I specified chart position as headers ("!"), because this not only bolds the characters, but also center aligns them. This adds emphasis and it's quite common in other tables of singles/albums. If we don't go for this method, we at least need to then center align the columns explicitly.
- The "valign=top" of the headings was as I found it, but I have no problem removing it (as was done before my revert).
--Deon Steyn 09:02, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- 1. It's a question of using semantic HTML. <small> is no longer a purely presentational tag in the latest HTML drafts. In this case the only reason we want to make the text smaller is purely stylistic, so using a style attribute is more appropriate. It also fixes the line-height issue that exists with using <small>.
- 2. Also a question of using semantic HTML, more important than 1. The bolding and center aligning is because they are treated as table headers, which they are not. Using table headers for stylistic effect is inappropriate, and will cause problems for people using assistive technology.
- 3. The alignment was inconsistent, with some table headers (real table headers) being top-aligned and others not. No reason to keep them inconsistent.
- I have center-aligned the chart positions and otherwise reverted to my version. I hope that is fine with you. Have a nice day. --PEJL 09:15, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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- Sorted! Thanks for the explanation of 1 and 2 (was always a bit suspicious of the headings in the middle of tables) and of course agreed with 3 and 4. --Deon Steyn 09:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
