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Contents 1 Peter Murphy 2 Michel Rubini 3 Plot 4 Movie and the Novel Differences

[edit] Peter Murphy

I was under the assumption that Peter Murphy is in the film... Anyone know? 782 Naumova 17:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Who is Peter Murphy? Anyway, IMDB doesn't mention anything, so I doubt it... 惑乱 分からん 15:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

He does appear, in the opening credits, I believe it is? But I'm not sure exactly when.192.160.165.63 05:47, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Peter Murphy is the lead singer of the band Bauhaus (band). In the opening scene of The Hunger, it is Peter Murphy who is in the cage singing the immortal classic, Bela Lugosi's Dead.

-- Labyrinth13 18:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Michel Rubini

Composed the music for this film.

[edit] Plot

I've rewritten and expanded the plot description. Further revisions and contributions are very welcome -- it's been a few years since I last saw The Hunger, and I may have made mistakes or omissions. I noticed that the older version of this section contained plot points and information that are not from the movie at all, but rather the novel. This is confusing and should be avoided. But since the plot of the novel is slightly different, should we add a section explaining these differences? There are already some comments about the altered ending. CKarnstein 04:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Just wanted to say that you did an excellent job with your rewrite of this article. Nice work! Labyrinth13 18:54, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

No alternate ending though? There is one, but it is not included.

I just watched the movie last night and it didn't seem to me that Miriam was pushed by her old lovers but rather that she panicked when confronted with her past and responsibility towards them and then fell down the stairs in an accident. Honestly, I have asked myself several times what the meaning of this end is. Why do her lovers finally die when she gets old? Why does she get old in the first place, she doesn't seem to die? etc. etc... kmir78

• Well, I disagree with the plot description. The (Miriam) lovers die only when Mirian herself is “vampirized” by Sarah (remember than both women have blood streaming from their mouths as if a fight took place), this caused that “her blood” was conquered by the new blood, the one of Sarah´s. Thus –when she hits the floor but not because of it- she ages very rapidly cause –on contraire of all of the lovers- she is very, very, very old. Once she gets old –but not die- all her vampirized victims can die –to really die, that is- so they turn to cracks and ashes. Sarah becomes the new dominant vampire, and she keeps instead new “lovers”. There is a hint with the real state man saying that the revenues of the mansion sale have to go to a clinic. Obviously its Sarah´s maneuver, but we don’t know if its done just for the sake of her old job or because she still have a hope of overcoming this vampire “disease”. At least she has centuries to try. Excuse my poor English. --Magnvss 04:56, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

• Although this was outlined in the novel, the movie omitted many explanations as to what the differences between Miriam and her lovers were, and what her species' powers and weaknesses were. Miriam's species can't die in the manner that regular humans are familiar with, but they can be injured badly, and still take a normal amount of time to heal. The fall she suffers at the end dealt Miriam what would otherwise be fatal injuries, disabling her long enough for Sarah to imprision her. The original ending (from the novel) had Sarah "dying" from blood loss and Miriam boxing her up, and fleeing New York to avoid potential investigations into the dissapearances of some of the characters. The ending was changed to give the audience the sense that Miriam was meeting some sort of punishment for her "crimes". They also seem to have fallen back on the old "saving everyone by killing the head vampire" cliche, having everyone finally die after Miriam is "dead"... although she's not dead. Needless to say, there's a reason why the cast and crew prefered the novel's ending over what the studio had put in place.

I'm compiling a list of differences between the movie and the novel, and plan to post it here over the weekend. It's so far just main plot points (like the one explaining Miriam's abilities/weaknesses), and I plan to re-read the novel and review the movie to root out details I've missed. --Kt'Hyla 20:20, 18 October 2007 (EST)

I've removed the portion in the plot outline regarding Sarah being Miriam's first lesbian lover, as Miriam has taken other female lovers before. In particular, she addresses Lollia, a former lover in the coffin next to John's, in the scene where she boxes him up. Other females also appear amongst the corpses at the end of the movie. Alice was also being groomed as John's replacement, although it was more prudent not to spell this out in the movie, IMO.

I'm also wondering about dropping the word "lesbian" in describing the "tie" between Sarah and Miriam, so the sentence reads "Sarah discovers that her tie with Miriam...", as the term seems to be extraneous here. Otherwise, what's written here is probably the best rationalization of an ending that probably wasn't meant to make sense in the first place.

As a bit of trivia, neither of the characters are actually lesbian, of which implies that they only like other women: Sarah is still hetero, she's just seduced by Miriam (Miriosexual?). Miriam herself could be considered bisexual, although the novel's sequel actually alludes to her relationships with humans being more along the lines of bestiality, as her kind considers humans to be nothing more than livestock. As the frisky Scotsman would say, "ewwwwwwe" :D. Strieber actually explains both of these points in the novels. --Kt'Hyla 05:20, 30 October 2007 (EST)

[edit] Movie and the Novel Differences

I've added sections for "Explanation of the difference between Miriam and her lovers" and "Differences between the Movie and the Novel". It occurred to me when writing the differences between the novel and the movie that a short section explaining the Miriam's condition vs her lovers would be helpful for people looking to understand that aspect of the story. Feedback on the form and content would be appreciated, personally I feel the section covering the novel is a bit long. --Kt'Hyla 04:40, 30 October 2007 (EST)