Talk:The Happiness Patrol
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[edit] Subtext
Is there a way to mention the alleged gay subtext of this story in the Notes without sounding crass or starting a flame war? While it's only one interpretation, I'd argue that interpretation is notable and as relevant as the mention of Thatcher. Or am I asking for trouble? :-) --Whouk (talk) 12:36, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, yes you are. :) That being said, if you can find a cite in any of the more reliable reference works on it... --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 12:59, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
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- There are only a couple flamers who bother our Doctor Who articles, we should be able to see them off ... ;) --TimPope 13:10, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
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- The only reference work on hand that even says that there's a gay subtext is The Discontinuity Guide, but I think it's making much of nothing. The example they cite - that of the Fondant Surprise victim wearing a pink triangle, turns out to be a mistake (he isn't)[1] [2]. The only possibly gay moment is when Helen-A's husband runs off with Gilbert at the end, but I think that most of the perception here is down to the gender-reversal and the overabundance of pink, which IMO is stereotyping of the most painful degree. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 13:27, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
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- There's Matt Jones's article on the subject, which Paul Cornell reproduced in Virgin Publishing's Licence Denied book, if anybody has a copy of that to hand. My copy's back in Sussex, I'm afraid, so I can't help. Angmering 14:00, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
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- I'll see if I can dig a copy out. There are a few bits of dialogue too: Susie Q's "I am what I am" speech and Helen A' "outing with the Happiness Patrol" joke (though maybe best not to metion "You like guns, don't you?" ;-). It's lots of little things which on their own don't mean much but together suggest a subtext. --Whouk (talk) 16:45, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Sycorax
Any conection between the rat-dog creature and the villans in The Christmas Invasion? 84.71.62.50 18:54, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Paranoia
This reminds me of Paranoia, to be honest. Wierd. 203.143.248.114 08:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Subext Part 2
(I'd have put this above but the format is already indented enough).
Dudes.
The story is about a planet where everyine is forced to be HAPPY AND CHEERFULL all the time on the pain of being shot to death in a hail of gunfire. There is no gay subtext. There is happy subtext.
It's like saying 'The movie Titanic had water subtext'.Lots42 05:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Band Myspace Link
Should the links/information about [3] really be there? The band named themselves after this episode - wouldn't a link back from the band if they ever become notably famous be more appropriate? A bit of looking around shows there's a heavy metal band called "Odin", but they're not linked to on Odin I'm going to remove them, and the various dead external links. DJNW (talk) 12:29, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
