Talk:The Group Selection Squad

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This article falls in the "not even wrong" category: it is simply ridiculous. The reason why Wynne-Edwards' ideas were discredited is that they were wrong, as in "two plus two equals five" wrong. Everybody agrees about that, including Sober and Sloan-Wilson (who call Wynne-Edwards' ideas naive in their book "Unto others"). This is why S and SW use "group selection" in a very different, more careful way, which is compatible with the modern theory of evolution and 100% "kosher" Darwinian. They are carfeul to show how their group selection mechanisms translate into net effects at the level of the gene, and therefore "work" - whereas Wynne-Edwards' original ideas did not. Not enough time to correct the article now, unfortunately, so I'll go the easy route and just slap a tag on it. --Thomas Arelatensis 15:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] indeed, this article should probably be tagged for deletion

This entire article is a fringe theory; so ridiculous that no one in the scientific community is likely to ever take the time to refute it. WP:FRINGE most definitely applies here. Dyanega 21:51, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed that the article was created by someone evidently claiming to be Howard Bloom himself, the prime subject of the article. That would also seem to indicate that the article falls under WP:COI and WP:SPS as well, since the only references I can find to the existence of a "group selection squad" are those written by Bloom. Dyanega 21:58, 18 June 2007 (UTC)