Talk:The Exploited

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i agree with the biased and fishy remark. the part about inarticulate politics is correct, but i think the suggestion that they are pro-fascist is wrong. (hitler's in the charts, i think, is pretty clearly against the rise of neo-nazi punk rock.)

britannia waives the rules isn't an exploited album, it's a compilation album (and a good one).

whooa.... this article is biased and fishy...

yeah this page isnt acurate its wrong they had way more albums than that

This article is way too based on the writer's opinions. Someone needs to revise it with all of their albums mentioned. TearAwayTheFunerealDress 14:30, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Go right ahead and add them. And make any other changes you think are necessary. -R. fiend 15:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Why? Did you write the article? Because you seemed pissed off about my comment. TearAwayTheFunerealDress 13:57, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Not pissed off. Just encouraging you to add the albums. I wrote some of the article, and I included the albums I knew. I stopped listening to them after The Massacre, which I thought was a disappointing album. I know Live at the Whitehouse and War Now are missing (the former being a live album isn't as important as the others, but could still be listed, and War Now is an EP, and I forget what year it was ('86?)). I wasn't even sure they were still around, really, but I guess as long as Wattie has a voice he'll find three guys to back him up. Anyway, it's a wiki, so you can change whatever you want. Just keep it neutral/balanced, don't gush about how great the band is, and make sure your information is verifiable and not overly trivial. Alter away. -R. fiend 15:38, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Since I first read the stub some months ago this article has gotten a lot better, so just give it some more time and input. I just added the info from the albums I got, if you have more insight than please just put it in here. I agree though that the article is biased, but it's kinda hard to find some actual facts about their history (Quibus 09:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC))

Contents 1 WP:NMG 2 [[]] 3 Right-wing (and Anarcho-punk) allegations 4 Tony Thomson Lochiel

[edit] WP:NMG

Per WP:NMG could you please add some sales figures for the albums. Thanks - Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] (W) AfD? 13:30, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

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There are several factual inaccuracies and substantial bits of info missing. For example, the original guitarist 'Big John' is not cited at all - he was a major influence. The Exploited were at the hub of the second wave of punk in the UK and were prominent and possibly the most successful band of that time. When I get the chance i will dig out my original copy of 'Punks Not Dead' (I'm the one giving the 'v' sign on the cover picture and update this.

They also charted in the UK charts in ?1981 and did Top of the Pops! Big John later left as Wattie was doing too much glue and eventually heroin. The group also got into some odd noteriety by hanging out with Jimmy Boyle a famous Scottish gang member and violent criminal, who had reformed and became an artist.

Big John went on to be in other groups after leaving The Exploited (according to the official Exploited website he was briefly in Nirvana and also I think he may have been involved with Garbage.

What about "Jesus is dead EP(1986)" this a very important EP, because is not "Single" like "War Now(1988)", this EP don't have any remix ("War Now" have remix version of "Sexual Favours"). Also Exploited was a great influence to the "Trash Metal" music, as you know, "Trash Metal" is a consequence of make a "crossover" of heavy metal and punk

so everyone agrees that The Exploited were a racist band? What the F*** is up with that? What kind of white power bonehead s*** like them? I don't see how this can be true. Just becuase a track has Hitler's name in it, doesn't make it a racist song. And why are they a seminal rock band? What does seminal mean?

Seminal means incredibly important in the creation of ____. Similar root as semen (no, I'm not joking or trying to be obscene, that is a good way to remember it). It usually refers to art or literature. Examples: The Sex Pistols were a seminal punk rock band. Nirvana was a seminal grunge band. Huckleberry Finn was a seminal piece of American literature, etc. The Ungovernable Force 01:25, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Right-wing (and Anarcho-punk) allegations

I put a verify tag on this page a few days ago, and I'm going to remove the unsourced allegations that The Exploited have had anything to do with right-wing circles. I've always thought they were an up-and-down anarchist band. mgekelly 03:12, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Too right they were an up-and-down anarchist band! They had a song called I Believe In Anarchy, put anarchy A's on bloody everything and suppoted Class War!

As you did with the right wing allegations, i'm doing it with anarcho-punk, please cite the sources that shows that they've been involved with the anarcho-punk community, because all the anarcho-punk communities i know would kick the exploited asses if they had the chance. having just a song doesn't with the word anarchy in its title don't make them anarchists, and much less anarcho-punks. --Cacuija (my talk) 06:00, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Very Funny. So you anyone can claim they are racist because of ironic songs, but not anarchists even if they have song like that. Your statement about "anarcho-punk communities" makes me laugh. The Exploited are the fathers of the second wave of punk. Every punk own them something. Only newbies who know nothing and came after everything was done can claim : "you don't know what real punk is, you're not like me, me, me !". This kind of assumptions seems pretty racist to me. hello 08:00, 15 june 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.250.140.248 (talk)

[edit] Tony Thomson Lochiel

Sad to say that Tony died this past weekend, he had cancer. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SimpleLinctus (talk • contribs) 20:06, 30 March 2007 (UTC).