Talk:The Dakota

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The building has a bloody history of suicides, killings and another problems. It's said that it's built on a place were gathers evil forces. Aleister Crowley, the famous satanist, also inhabited the building.

dubious assertion. -- Someone else 06:54, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC)

[edit] "The"

Does "The" belong in the article title? RickK 07:40, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Absolutely. It's referred to as "The Dakota". The question is, should the word building be there? -- Someone else 07:42, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Do we have The Pentagon? The White House? The United States Capitol? RickK 07:45, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Yes, we have The Pentagon. No, we don't have The White House, but we probably should. No, we don't have The United States Capitol, and we shouldn't: the building is The Capitol, which we have placed at "United States Capitol", probably as a means of disambiguation. -- Someone else 07:58, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC)
The overwhelming majority of buildings on the Wikipedia do not have "the" in the titles. I see no reason to change that convention, and plenty of reason not to (it would interact badly with searches as presently implemented, for instance). So unless you want to argue that this building's name is in some way exceptional, or that we should change the article title for every building in Wikipedia, it should be changed. --Robert Merkel 08:53, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC)
I'd prefer to argue that there is no consistent rule, and (just as some Rock Groups consider "The" part of their name and some do not), that "The" is part of some buildings' names, and not of others, and that the guide must be the way most people refer to them, rather than consistency. --- Someone else 09:23, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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I changed the sentence "the figure of a Dakota Indian keeps watch" to read "the figure of a Dakota Indian keeps watch" because the Dakota are Sioux and that makes it link to that article.--Dakota ~ ° 01:35, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No bullets in "In popular culture" section

Why do the bullets in the bulleted list in the "In popular culture" section not appear? Robert K S 18:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dakota Copy

There is a copy of the Dakota. I believe it is in Riverdale, Bronx. I'm wondering if anyone has information on this building.

[edit] Myth of "Dakota" name origin

According to "Streetscapes" by Christopher Gray (see p. 328), the Dakota was not so named because the building was so far away. According to Gray, Clark was in favor of renaming avenues on the Upper West Side after new states and territories such as Montana, Wyoming, etc, because he liked how the words sounded. In the same vein, he named his building after the Dakota Territory, not because it was so remote. The remoteness myth first appears in 1933. I'm going to change references to the origin of the name, but it's possible that Gray is wrong and that there are good sources out there that say otherwise. Bhell 03:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Give your reference in a footnote and report both the familiar myth and Gray's correction. You might even quote Gray direcrtly. --Wetman 04:39, 30 May 2007 (UTC)