Talk:The Crüxshadows

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[edit] Crux vs Crüx

Why is this on "Crüxshadows", while their site appears to say "Cruxshadows"? -The preceding signed comment was added by Nazgjunk (talkcontrib) 07:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

"Appears" is the correct word: the title of the web-page is without the umlaut, doubtless to avoid problems for people whose browsers cannot cope with such, but very prominently on that page it proclaims "The Crüxshadows […] Official Website", complete with umlaut. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 09:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Quoting, "Announcing the release of The Cruxshadows first full length original album since the 2003 release of Ethernaut.". Oh well, I guess they're just lazy. The logo (or whatever you call it) says "Crüx" too, so I guess it's right that way.-The preceding signed comment was added by Nazgjunk (talkcontrib) 17:30, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Angel IV Cycle

Could someone write something about this. All the full lengths seem to be part of it, but nothing is said about it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HDS (talkcontribs).

Well, what is it? Xinit 00:39, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] genre

eeeh electropop? why call the crüxshadows that? synthish music+gothic style makes perfect darkwave and i believe darkwave fits ALOT better than electropop ,not to mention the band calls themselves darkwave! So Darkwave and perhaps also Gothic Rock would fit much better! Kitten!meow 19:39, 31 May 2007 (UTC) Kitten!Meow

Gothic Rock? Vaugly, too vaugly to be concidered that genre, in most peoples oppinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JimEerie (talkcontribs) 16:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
I have to agree with the statements of Dr Who1975 and Skunkarific...although some of their music may have a "synthpop" or even "europop" sound to them, most of their music is either very nightclub-dancey, or introspectively moody...in other words, goth. As Kitten!Meow already stated, synth + goth = Darkwave, and at the risk of repeating again what others have already said, look at the fans who attend their concerts. Finally, regardless of anything else, the Crüxshadows already declare themselves as either Goth Rock, or Darkwave on any website or interview associated with them...that should settle it right there. Travis9x (talk) 16:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Release Year of Frozen Embers - 2003, or 2004?

I noticed that the article previously stated the release year of the Frozen Embers EP as 2004, but everywhere else I have looked I have always seen it as a 2003 release (I would cite such sources as VH1, who declare the release date as August 5, 2003)...not to mention that I own this particular EP, and it has 2003 printed right on it. So I have changed the year to 2003...if anyone has any counter arguments, please speak up. Thanks. Travis9x (talk) 15:40, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia removal

Recently, I removed the list of times The Crüxshadows have been mentioned in books. This is simply trivial information, and it doesn't belong here or anywhere else; the significance of that appearance simply hasn't been demonstrated. Please see User:Eyrian/IPC for more elaborate arguments. --Eyrian 16:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Intro re-worded

I have pretty much completely re-written the intro in an effort to remove the press-release sound that it had. "Distinctive style" and such. There was a claim that they had extensively toured in Asia, but the only shows I've heard of were the Chinese shows that took place this year. The intro also credited Rogue with being the sole origin of the band which seemed disingenuous...

In other edits, I've integrated elements from the former "trivia" section into the intro and main body Xinit 14:10, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genre

I agree. The cruxshadows are darkwave, not anything else. Not even gothic rock. Especially gothic rock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hatecrew9 (talkcontribs) 18:18, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Angel IV cycle

I also think there should be more on this. I know nothing about it by the way. Hatecrew9 22:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Cruxshadows and John Ringo

Some of the books of John Ringo feature references to the songs and lyrics of the Cruxshadows. Anybody think this merits a mention on the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.1.188.205 (talk) 03:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Goth??

In fact, they sound more electro/synthpop these days. I, amongst everyone I know, would not concider these to still be in the goth scene. "the first goth band ever to perform at an open-air festival in China"<--- I'd like to say that this is an obvious POV. --JimEerie (talk) 16:36, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I would argue that they ARE Goth based on the attendees. To cite, I will direct all to the Cruxshadows website's photo section (http://www.cruxshadows.com/gallery.htm). Also, the content deals with Gothic themes, e.g. "Leave Me Alone", "Bloodline", "The Dying Song", "Memorare". Their MySpace page (www.myspace.com/cruxshadows) bills themselves as Gothic. They regularly play the Wave Gotic Treffen festival (http://www.wave-gotik-treffen.de/english/) Skunkarific (talk) 15:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Even if they aren't goth now they definetly were in the 90s.--Dr who1975 (talk) 03:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Cruxshadows have been making music for 15 years

Some of us were listening to the Cruxshadows in the 90s, when, according to certain banned users, gothic rock was the norm. Even if the era ofGothic Rock has passed.... the Cruxshadows were around and touring during those bygone days. I can't speak for nowadays because I've grownup, got a job, got married, and had children but it would not change the fact that the Cruxshadows were a Gothic Rockband during th e90s. Some people who don;tknow what they're talking about can't get it through their thick skull that the Cruxshadows have been around for more than 5 years.--Dr who1975 (talk) 03:46, 24 May 2008 (UTC)