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[edit] Haran

Wasn't that Haran guy that was Claudes partner part of the Company?

[edit] Yamagato

There has been no definitive tie between the modern day Yamagato Industries and The Company. All we know is that Kaito Nakamura once worked for The Company (he may not have been affiliated with - or have founded - Yamagato by then). His actions at the end of Season 1 would suggest he is no longer on The Company's side. Suggest rewriting the Yamagato statement.

I agree. Kaito should be shown as an employee of The Company, but not necessarily Primatech, and references to Yamagato Industries should be removed unless a relationship between The Company and Yamagato is shown. KC 16:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Original Company

Hey people The Guy who can do atomic transmutation is part of the company. He said that "30 years ago we started the company. A group of like minded individuals." So Leave him on there until we find out other wise. AND HIS NAME ISN'T "BOB"!! And dont mess with my work im the guy who started it so let me finish it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Homeman892003 (talk • contribs) 16:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

You cannot own this or any page, no matter if you stated it or not, he could have been speaking as a proxy fro the company, not as an original member, and every other page says "Bob", so no. I realise that these are in good faith, but you appear to be new, starting on only 06 February of this year, so poke around a little more before you make orders. Oh, and remember to sign your comments with four tildes. Therequiembellishere 20:04, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

What he actually said was "The company was formed 30 years ago with a group of like-minded individuals, ordinary men and women who were gifted with extraordinary powers." He's speaking in the passive voice here, so it's speculation to say that he's part of the original group of 12. Let's wait until it's verifiable. What is the source for using the name "Bob"? I don't think I heard anyone say his name in the episode, and, as far as I know, there are no graphic novels with that character in it. KC 22:42, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, how did the other pages get "Bob"? Therequiembellishere 23:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't know, that's why I was asking. If it's in Wikipedia, then it's supposed to be verifiable. KC 23:52, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Jack Coleman calls him Bob in the commentary for the episode. http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/video/commentary_201.shtml 67.167.123.64 01:28, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
OK, thanks! KC 12:50, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay my Bad. maybe his name is bob but, that may be just what they called him in the commentary to as not give too much information. Like Noah Bennet "Noah saved a spark of humanity in the flood story.Spread The Word 12:56, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering, when did they ever confirm that bob worked at primatech? i know he works for the company, but i dont remember anything in the episode that said his front was primatech. for all we know, primatech may not play a role in season two. but i am just asking if thier was something in the episode that said he worked for primatech or just the company. .Chrisisinchrist2 12:56, 29 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.220.243 (talk)

I haven't seen anything connecting "Bob" to Primatech Paper either. I recommend that we just say he is an employee of The Company for now. KC 14:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


Great news everyone! "Heroes" writers/producers Joe Pokaski and Aron Coleite just released a question and answer segment over at comicbookresources.com. Basically, they confirmed that Bob was a part of the original group of heroes. The original group of twelve. I am going to add the link for a reference and make changes to the chart. Can someone please tag the reference to the information, because i am not good at tagging sources. Here is the quote and link... http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12002

It was great to see Stephen Tobolowsky in "Heroes." He's an incredible character actor and, actually, just played a comic shop owner in the NBC series "Raines," so his comic connections continue. What more can you tell us about him? Is he just a low level man in the company or is he a man of some importance? How big a role will he have in Season 2?

His name is Bob. He's pretty high up in the company. What's a good word for “very important?” Paramount? Crucial?

Okay, we'll keep a close eye on Bob. Also, is/was he part of the older group that Linderman, Mrs. Petrelli, and Daddy Nakamura were part of? Or is he with a new group altogether?

Same group. When you see the photo that Kaito's death card was taken from, you'll see Bob's pretty face as part of it. --76.168.220.243 19:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


i dont think we should call bobs character bob parkman until it has been proven in a graphic novel or on the show. only the gossip website are saying that bob is parkmans dad but it has not been verified. also, when did the show or novel verify that bob was the acting head of the company. he may just be on the same level as bennet. i understand he was apart of the original 12 but it hasnt been verified thatr he is the head of the company. also, it hasnt been verified that elle portrayed by kristen bell is a part of the company. tvguide has only said that the character has ties to HRG, claire and peters death. not to the company. please stop adding that. --76.168.220.243 05:21, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

When they said bob was important they probably mean financially, after all the others had to have some way to creat all those businesses. Bobs Definitly financially important that we know.Spread The Word 16:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

They say "He's pretty high up in the Company", which to me is pretty vague. Maybe we should just call him a manager or supervisor (or something similar) until we find out for sure that he's the (acting) head of the Company. KC 19:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

No I will not stop adding Elle, if you actually read the article, it tells you that she is the Company's hit-woman. Don't disregard my notes, they're there for a reason. Therequiembellishere 22:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


http://theories.activatingevolution.org/swiki/wiki/index.php/Midakinesis
this site is a good site to veiw powers and the speculation of powers 'Serushs own ideas'
bobs power is Midakinesis or thats what he calls it 'King Midas'
also this
http://theories.activatingevolution.org/swiki/wiki/index.php/Umbrakinesis
"hoodie"'s power i believe is this. if u think about it its not speculation
Spread The Word 16:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I really wish they would give us a name for "hoodie" so we can call him that. Does anybody know if they released a name for him yet?Spread The Word 17:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

The problem I have with that Activating Evolution site, is that it's a Wiki and anybody can edit it, so it's not "canon" or particularly reliable. That's JMO, though. As for "Hoodie", I haven't even seen any spoilers that give him a name. It's just a mystery for now. At some point I think they plan to show us the picture of the founding group (we've already seen part of it with Angela and Kaito's photos with the death mark on it) and the remaining members of the group will be revealed. Until then, we just have to be patient. KC 14:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair EnoughSpread The Word 16:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


OK, now there's something wrong with the chart. On the photo, there are 12 people. We know who most of them are, but there are 3 unidentified women and 2 unidentified men. One of those men is Adam Monroe (if we can trust the Heroes mobile game as being "canon"). None of the others looks like "Hoodie", although one of the 12 could be altering their appearance to look like "Hoodie". Here is my reference (you have to look at all 3 photos to see all 12 people in the photo):

http://forums.thetenthwonder.com/viewtopic.php?t=2769&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[edit] Bob

This is a conversation from the website http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12002 and this proves that it is atomic transmutation like i originally said. Joshua's a new reader of BEHIND THE ECLIPSE and asks, "I was just wondering about the man who came and met with Mohinder. Is Bob (I believe that was his name) one of the 12 that Kaito mentioned when he was talking about the founders? Also, I was wondering about his powers. Can he turn metals in to more than just Gold, or shall we be nicknaming him 'Midas' for the rest of the season?"

We'll be learning about Bob's connection to everyone soon enough. And keep your eye out for some more alchemy than just gold.
Spread The Word 16:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


Does somebody want to start Bob's Page. because yah. we know his name and power and some history. not to mention that way we can add info on him.Spread The Word 14:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I have inside information that Bob is in fact Matt Parkman's father, as well as the being who can see Molly when she dreams. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.108.232.33 (talk) 16:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Where The H*** did u get it. and that makes no sense. how can he see her with his power. Spread The Word 17:06, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Even if it's true, I don't think it meets Wikipedia's verifiability requirement. I would be reluctant to include that information even if it came from a "reliable" spoiler source, because even they are wrong quite often. I have read spoiler hints that Alan Blumenfeld will be playing Matt Parkman's father and that he is the one in Molly's nightmares. (Alan also played Grunberg's father in Felicity.) KC 20:03, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the source for Bob being the man Molly can see and being Matt Parkmans father came from a huge article in the National Enquirer. That is not a verifiable source, since it is a tabloid. So, I agree that we should not add that information to the page. The National Enquirer is the last place we can go to find information that is true. they have been off several times. Also, I did read that Alan Blumenfeld is going to be the being that Molly can see and parkmans father. If you go to NBC and read the press releases for upcoming episodes, one of the links, i beleive for episode six says that mollys boogeyman will be revealed. then it goes on to list the actors that will be in the episode. stephen who plays bob is not listed. alan blumenfeld is. this is speculation of course, but i just attempting to discredit the rumor that bob is the boogeyman and parkmans father and that may prove that it is all purely specualtion.--Chrisisinchrist 23:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

-PAGE FOR BOB-

I didn't see the point in starting a new section but is there a need to create a new, individual, page for Bob? He is quite clearly a key character and we have enough information to make it relevant. ZoneGhost 00:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source for Arthor Petrelli

Is the heroes mobile game a viable source for us to place Arthor as his first name?--76.168.220.243 19:51, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

It's conducted through Heroes 360, that makes it official Therequiembellishere 19:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Quick ? How do we know Arthor committed suicide. not trying to debunk anything. i just can't remember where they talk about it? Spread The Word 17:07, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Somewhere in season 1 (I can't remember exactly which episode), Angela tells one of her sons (Nathan, IIRC) that he committed suicide. Is Arthor really spelled that way? That's a very unusual spelling of the name. KC 20:55, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I just looked it up, and I think it's the episode "Don't Look Back" when Angela reveals the suicide to Peter (not Nathan, my memory was faulty). KC 21:22, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

As a side note to this point at least one other name is given, "Adam Monroe". I believe this should be put up as well. The person who posted the pictures said there were others that were removed meaning they have good information, so somebody should try to find those. BioYu-Gi! 19:17, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Original?

Just speculation for now, but D.L.'s mom (NewOrleans lady) maybe an original. after all this is the season for the generaton of the "elders" --Spread The Word 16:20, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

You said it yourself, speculation. Therequiembellishere 22:48, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I have read that "Nana" (Nichelle Nichols - "Uhura" from Star Trek) is supposed to be Micah's great aunt (D.L.'s aunt) -- not his mother. But, spoilers have been wrong before. Let's just wait until things have been confirmed. KC 14:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I remember now ya Aunt Thats what i meant. but ya speculation for now. but we need 5 more people?! so im just looking for them and hoping they are them —Preceding unsigned comment added by Homeman892003 (talk • contribs) 16:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

DLs Aunt is sitting on Charles Devauxe Right Hand Side. She looks a little younger obviously but its her. but ill wait to put her on unless u all think so too Spread The Word 15:21, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

There is a huge debate in Heroes forums over whether that woman is Nana or not. In real life, Nichelle Nichols is about 10 years older than Richard Roundtree, but the woman in that picture looks like she's about 50, and she definitely looks younger than Charles in the photo. Because so many people disagree that she is Nana, I recommend that we wait until we get some kind of confirmation as to her identity. KC 13:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
And if it's not confirmed by the show, it's original research.

[edit] Original group

I deleted the numbering of the original 12, as this implied hierarchy within the group. Also, I deleted "Hoodie", since 1) It's only speculation that (s)he is part of the group and 2) if he is, he could be any of the already known members. Pjär80 02:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that! KC 14:16, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Not that this needs to be added yet (preferrably we should wait for some character to vocalize it), but the light-skinned black woman sitting next to Charles Deveraux in the photo is Nana Dawson. I just hope Mohinder sees her while visiting Monica and IDs her from the photo in the next episode. Lore aura 20:31, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that is Nana Dawson/Nichelle Nichols (please see above in the New Original? section just above this one). I think that woman is more likely to be D.L.'s mom, Paulette Hawkins (Tina Lifford). http://heroeswiki.com/Tina_Lifford We need to wait until we can verify who it is. KC 18:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Now that I see the picture up close, it looks like neither of the two actresses. Right now, I'm subscribing to the theory that the woman in the picture is Monica's deceased mother. I can't wait for confirmation in series! Lore aura 17:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Should Adam be moved up to the top of the table, because he is the original or primary founder of the group, and not one of the 12? KC 15:50, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maury Parkman

The most recent online graphic novel confirms that Matt's dad's name is Maury Parkman. So, now we've got two sources for that bit of information. http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/downloads/Heroes_novel_056.pdf KC 21:18, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


Maurys power and matts isnt telepathy not pursay that is a subtext power from it but not its real name i will search for a real name for it but I just wanted everyone to know that i will change it when i find the namSpread The Word 17:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

its Mind Control, i dont know y i didnt notice it before. But its an amazing power nonthelessSpread The Word 17:43, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

It's not just mind control, though. It's broader than that. KC 19:31, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

how is it broader they can read the nueronic messages and create them which as subtypes includes perception,telepathy,mindreading, nightmares,persuasion, body control

what im saying its the broadest and if mind control isnt broad enough then TELEPATHY definitly because telepathy has nothing to do with anyof the othersSpread The Word 02:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I think telepathy is fine. KC 14:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

TELEPATHY has nothing to do with their other powers Spread The Word 15:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Matt isn't controlling anyone's mind when he is receiving their thoughts/reading their minds/whatever you want to call it. I'm not sure what your source is, but even the Heroes Wiki is calling their powers telepathy -- not mind control. There is some overlap, but IMO telepathy is a broader term for what they can do than mind control is. KC 16:05, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

No he isnt but he can Bob said u have control over everything that has to do with the mind actions thoughts senses part of mind control that they never say but would have to be is reading of it and he did control someones mind once before when he MADE nathan hear his voice when they were trapped in seperate nightmares because what he did would have to be controlling the thoughts or senses on thatSpread The Word 17:08, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Telepathy, from the Greek τῆλε, tele meaning "remote" and πάθεια, patheia meaning "to be affected by",[2], is a term used to describe the transfer of information on thoughts or feelings between individuals by means other than the five classical senses. That pretty much covers everything that Matt or Maury can do. The transfer refers to both to and from a person. This power and this term refer to any remote source affected a mind in any way, i.e., controlling the mind, reading thoughts, creating visions, etc. Also, KC's tone is passive in this debate and Homeman, you seem to be overly aggressive. I understand debates can be heated, but let's keep this under control.--130.156.172.174 23:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Defected?

Doesn't the term "defected" imply that they've joined a competing or rival organization? Would it be better to use a different term (such as "rogue")? Thoughts? KC 14:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

How about "inactive" as opposed to "deceased". Therequiembellishere 18:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll answer both. Inactive is different than deceased for this reason: Noah's inactive (Or rogue (hell, or both) , if you want) for not only does he NOT work for the Company, he's now on the side that's fighting the company. Defecting, in many cases, refers to going over to a rival company, or country. In this case, it's cause: Noah is now fighting the company, like the Haitian, and somewhat like Mohinder. I think that all four terms, however, should be used in describing present and former characters. Inactive should be used as well as deceased, and rogue should be used over defection. Since the series lacks an established group to fight the company, defected should be used the least, with rogue in it's stead. Yes for KC's comment, and regard Shere's comment as important as well. For the second comment, rogue and defected imply the person still being alive. Inactive and deceased break ground: One implies non-function within the group, one's just dead. In all cases, deceased would carry the same weight, IF the person is dead. If they aren't dead, and just inactive, deceased would fail to describe this. Another suggestion would be making two columns: Status with Company (Active, Defected, Rogue, Inactive), and Alive/Deceased. 74.12.13.224 11:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC) Joe Caron

[edit] Adam Monroe

Is there any source that proves he is infact Active as stated? As at the moment the only source is his name from the mobile video name, which doesnt say whether if he is Active or not As there is no source proving it, I it should say unknown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.183.176 (talk) 20:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Did you see last night's episode? Therequiembellishere 02:01, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ivan

Didn't Bennet say Ivan was one of the twelve? He looks like one of the people in the photo, but there are conflicting issues with this. If he was, he most likely had a power, and could have defended himself, yet if he wasn't how did he get access to all eight paintings? BioYu-Gi! 18:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

The fact that he didn't defend himself, and the fact that he had a partner at all means that he wasn't one of the twelve. In addition to this, his partner did have a power, which means Ivan couldn't have, following canon. Therequiembellishere 19:47, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

He doesn't have a power. In the graphic novel to coincide with season two, episode six, Noah went on a training mission to bag and tag a "water-man", and Ivan's partner is a pyrokinetic. He may have been part of the Company even up to his end, but he shows no ability in the novel, nor would it be likely the Company would change from its grouping of a Hero-Normie.--130.156.172.250 21:27, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tom Gibbs

Some put the name of Tom Gibbs on the page with the power to control the elements. When was this verified? Sources? Refereneces? There were none, so I removed. Does anyone have information on Tom Gibbs?--Chrisisinchrist 18:07, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I know nothing about Tom Gibbs or Andy Stewart. I'm not sure if those entries are based on spoilers/speculation or are just vandalism, but they should be removed until a *verifiable* source can be produced. KC 14:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HOODIE

Adam Monroe is the man that pushed Mr. Nakamura from the building thats how he got up and walked away he probably killed him himself as a form of revenge from Hiro stealing the princess

1 question though what are ur thoughts on adam being from the past is he immortal which would fit with the regeneration power or is he a power absorber and now has hiros power anyways we will find out for sure next monday but i was just wondering —Preceding unsigned comment added by Homeman892003 (talk • contribs) 17:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

This isn't supposed to be a forum, but I think that Adam cannot absorb other people's powers (like Peter can), because if he could then the group of 12 probably could not have imprisoned him -- he would have just teleported away, because he would have had Hiro's teleportation/time travel abilities. KC 17:35, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


Was it not mentioned by Bob that Maury Parkman was the one committing the murders? Not Adam himself.--ZoneGhost 00:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

he said that he was the blunt object of the murders but i believe that adam still could kill after all but then maury could of made himself look like anything by perception filtering(as explained above in maury parkman)Spread The Word 02:21, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

In one of the writers' blogs (Beeman, I think), it says that Anders was the one in the hoodie. Ophois 06:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

This weekends tv guide says that hiro is going to travel back in time to the exact moment of the murder and we are going to get a clear perspective of the murder and who did it. lets wait until that happens and stop trying to rush and just post things up that arent verified. it is not clear if it is maury or adam so why are we speculating? this is becoming fandom. we are not a news site. this is an encyclopedia. everything needs to be sourced and verified. lets just wait until the actual episode airs. --Chrisisinchrist 21:31, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

This discussion is more proper fro a fan forum and not Wikipedia, but we cannot cite it until it is shown.--Vg0131 22:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hana Gitelman

Shouldn't Hana be listed in the known employees chart? If so, should we put her down as deceased or rogue/living in the Internet? KC 14:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Is transception a word? Therequiembellishere 02:09, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I think transception is jargon used by the communications industry, but I doubt you'll find it in most standard dictionaries. KC 02:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Is it the right word to use here? It seems more like interception to me. Therequiembellishere 03:04, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

What about Molly? Therequiembellishere 21:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Monroe/Munroe

Just wanted to clear up that the correct spelling of Monroe, is, well, Monroe. It appears correctly on the page, but for some reason edits keep showing up with "Munroe".--Vg0131 02:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)