Talk:The City and the Stars
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I did my best to write a better article for this book, but I'm still not really happy with it. I think my own article is a bit too conversational. I also did not have the book with me (I borrowed it from school a month or two ago), and so I could not remember the name of the other city, along with a few other details. So, maybe somebody else could make it better.I put the text of the last article here because it covers the end of the book much better than my own, but... bah--maybe I just can't throw things away:
The plot takes place mostly on Earth, in the far future. The novel's main character is Alvin, a denizen of the city of Diaspar. Diaspar is a technologically advanced but stagnant city. Alvin was the only denizen of Diaspar who had the courage to go out of the city, and he finally succeeds in leaving Diaspar. He found that the reality was very different from how everyone pictured it. Those who dared, had long since left for the stars. People in Diaspar did fear many things, but there appeared to be another danger, of which no one knew. A real danger, Mad Mind, who was destroying the Universe. To defeat Mad Mind, the people created Vanamonde, the development was started at the end of the 20th century, but nobody knew about it at the time. Vanamonde was very childish, it was bodyless and could move instantly to where the objects came. It was supposed to develop, until it could fight the Mad Mind.
As it stands, I believe (I've been unable to get at my copy of either book for the last few days) the description of City and the Stars could stand as a fair description of either book, except I believe it was Jesserac who guided him to Lys in the original version of the book. That is why I've done a redirect page for Against the Fall of Night and added material about it. If this article isn't adequate coverage of both versions of a literary curiousity it could be. Jplatt39 13:13, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I never read anything about people's brains being stored in the computers in Against the Fall of Night. Did he add that to The City and the Stars?
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[edit] Differences/comparison
Would it be a good idea to add a section on differences or comparison between the two books? (I haven't read AtFoN so I wouldn't know what to say ...) --Yar Kramer 19:39, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
The first three paragraphs are specific to the City and the Stars. The rest is roughly applicable to both books.
[edit] Scientific error?
The fortress of Shalmirane is used to destroy the moon when it is in danger of falling on Earth. But the moon is receding, at 38 millimetres per year according to Orbit of the Moon.
Is there some explanation in the text? If not, should the error be noted?
--GwydionM 21:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- I don't recall any mention or explanation for it, but Clarke may not have been aware or thought it insignificant or his version believable as fiction. Either way, I don't think its worth mentioning in the article. Lebroyl 23:06, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- This book was written in the pre-space-age era. We discovered the fact that "the moon is receding", only after the Apollo moon landings. Remember, sci-fi that attempts to predict scientific discoveries sometimes fall short when reality catches up with it. Jason Palpatine 01:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Country
I believe that the country in the infobox should be the United States, rather than the revision to England. I think that the country is not that of Clarke's nationality, but of where the book was published. Not changing it becuase I'm not sure. Lebroyl 18:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Very true the country is supposed to be where the book was first published. The authors nationality would more than likely be in there own page. Harcourt is a US based company so I'll change it Jask99 17:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Hilvar brings Vanamonde back to Earth
"They encounter Vanamonde, a being of pure intellect, with whom Hilvar, being telepathic like other Lys people, can communicate and bring him back to Earth."
Vanamonde is long "back" on Earth when Alvin and Hilvar return, Hilvar hardly brought it back... (The City and the Stars version) Minusf (talk) 15:23, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
BetacommandBot (talk) 06:22, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
24.115.155.247 (talk) 13:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC) In march 2002 I recieved a return letter from Arthur C. Clarke in relation to C.A.T.S. He stated that the Novel C.A.T.S. was NEVER turned into a movie. I claimed that as a kid in Yonkers, N.Y. I saw on WPIX channel 11 a TV movie of this Novel! The date would of been around 1959~61 ????????? Does anyone else out there in the world rememeber this movie? Regards, Donald T. DiNaro dtdinaro@ptd.net 24.115.155.247 (talk) 13:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
