Talk:The Chariot (Tarot card)

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Not really Arthur frelling Dent, err, Arthur Dent of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, though he is an apt example of a man on someone else’s chariot.

The above is a quote from the article. I know nothing of either this topic or of the referencing subject, but it doesn't read right to me. I looked up the character and found nothing that puts it into its proper context. But since I don't know how to properly correct it, I left it. Hopefully, someone will adjust it.--Bacteria 07:05, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. It is an allusion to an episode of Farscape where the lead, John Crichton, goes through the exact list of examples of the Chariot in science fiction I just listed. ("I am not Kirk, Spock, Luke, Buck, Flash or Arthur Frelling Dent." I suppose it's pretty in-jokey, but I thought it did a good example of showing the archetypal voyagers and the, um, less archetypal. Lutanite 07:25, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I removed the "Examples" section since it was entirely Original Research which Wikipedia does not allow. I left the "mythopoeteic interpretation" section because that may have come from a reputable source but it seems to be something based on personal interpretation like the "Examples" section. - DNewhall

"Associated with this card are the star sign Cancer, The Moon, Water" ....???????????? I think there´s no logical relation between the Chariot and those archetypes Chariot is much more about Fire (Yang) than Water (Yin)... Leo than Cancer.... Mars...than Moon.... I don´t know much about hebraic letters...but please...let´s write something more logic and less speculative. Particularly, I found that a lot questionable... ---Don León Cavalero

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The article is just personal opinions from an occult enthusiast about the nature and meaning of a particular tarot card. No peer reviewed books or journal articles are cited. No references or footnotes are given. When a new statement is added, the source needs to be cited, and the source needs to be verifiable, and reliable. Waite is not an unbiased, factual source on the history or evolution of tarot cards. The work can be cited properly, however: "Waite's opinion in his book The Pictorial Key to the Tarot ... etc" The other sources are definitely of questionable academic weight.

The card in question has a history of over 500 years in European card games in which it is used as trump card (see Tarocchi). The article is unbalanced in that it only features the recent uses of the card for divination. This makes the article biased due to its recentism. Since the article ignores use of the card for game play in Europe and other parts of the world, it offers an anglo-american perspective that raises NPOV issues. There are academic sources and sources from international organizations discussing the history and evolution of the "Chariot" card as well as its use in games. These need to be utilized. - Parsa 07:03, 23 January 2007 (UTC)