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David Robinson links to a basketball star, not a drummer. heidimo 23:19, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

Not any more. However, if someone would like to expand the David Robinson article, that would be nice...

Shouldn't the comments such as (born Rick OtCasek) occur when the name is first mentioned?

This text is very biased against the band. It basically claims Elliot Easton was a poor musician, which is a blatant lie.

You are trolling. The article makes no such claims. -- FirstPrinciples 12:57, Nov 11, 2004 (UTC)

Here's what I don't get: Big tribute to Ocasek and Orr but no mention of the all world rhythm section. Have you ever actually appreciated how the the music is so well defined by the exacting percussion or do you just sing along in the shower??? If you change the drums they all starve and no one gets a supermodel.

did this offend you personally? did you shed tears over this? are you suffering emotional pain from this? FIX IT YOURSELF BE BOLD IN UPDATING PAGES. If there is a problem or something you'd like to add, do it yourself, don't cry to everyone. geez--Elysianfields 06:24, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

==The Cars was vs. The Cars were==good peeks Can someone explain the correct usage here on the Talk page to settle the ongoing tug of war in the first sentence? —Whoville 02:48, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

See [1] and [2] for lengthy discussions. The Copyeditor 02:59, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

We've settled through changing nouns for months now. It's RJN, he's the one who keeps changing back "are" to "is" and "were" to "was" for incorrect grammar usage of collective noun to such articles of american bands, for example he would change "The Doors were" to "The Doors was". I disagree that bands that have an "s" at the end of a band name are singular, but I'm not British, I'm American. But, I do not believe that the singular is correct. And for this band, it seems that the band members are talking about more than one car, for example "The Cars are parked in the garage". Still, the plural is correct for this band name. 65.222.216.15 00:48, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey there seems to something missing here...I think this was a comment Elliot Easton made but I'm not sure...someone was making an edit to it or something...when i logged in there was a box around this whole comment: Really, The New Cars lineup is, more than anything, a combining of two great bands: The Cars and of course, Utopia, with Prairie being a long time associate of Todd's and Kasim's. We fly under the flag of The New Cars, but are equally proud of the legacy associated with both bands, as well as all of the members' work in various other configurations, such as Todd's work under his own name and Prairie's work with The Tubes and many other artists."

[edit] Why ...

... is the section on the New Cars longer than the section on the Cars? Regardless of one's opinion on each act, wouldn't all agree that this disproportion should be corrected? Rapmasterjc 18:28, 20 September 2006 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rapmasterjc (talk • contribs) 19 September 2006.

Agreed. The amount of space devoted to the Colbert Report/Ocasek meme is overkill. —Whoville 21:45, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No Vargas cover art blurb???

It's a travesty that there's not one word regarding Vargas' cover for Candy-O, which brought him out of retirement shortly before his death.

One could argue that the pinup girl imagery gave the Cars an additional iconic hook that they otherwise would have lacked (with the red-nailed live model cover of "Shake It Up" and the knockoff Vargas-girl on the cover of "Heartbeat City" continuing the theme.)

While sexpots and scantily-clad girls on album covers was certainly nothing new in 1979, hormone-ridden teens could look Mother square in the eye and say "Don't be a prude, Mother. It's *art!*"

In the pre-internet days when cheesecake pinups and pornography were accesible only at the bottom of Dad's closet, the Cars certainly knew they were guaranteeing a few hundred thousand album sales when they picked the Candy-O cover.

--Rocker311 17:28, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I have to disagree with your "knockoff" reference to the Heartbeat City cover. That was a painting done in 1973 called Art-O-Matic Loop-De-Loop, incidentally, not commissioned for the album. It's a vastly different style from Vargas. But yes, you have a point about the importance of the album covers. Note that the albums which didn't feature a cute girl (Panorama and Door To Door) sold poorly in comparison to the others. --63.25.113.207 18:06, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Phoebe Phoebe Phoebe

If there is any proof of the demographic skew of Wikipedia contributors, it's the fact that this shockingly thin article about a very popular band includes no less than three mentions of Phoebe Cates' "pool scene" in Fast Times. (I like how it's euphemistically called the "pool scene" instead of the "boobies scene".) emw 23:48, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Singles layout

I'm trying a new layout for the Singles section. The previous layout, with the single table containing two sets of columns, was more compact, but a little confusing. The two sides need to have at least a small amount of separation, I think. For now, I've split them and used a columnar layout. It separates them a bit more than I had intended, at least in higher resolutions, but I think it's better than having them joined as they were. If anyone has a better idea that tightens up the tables a bit, go ahead and try it. --Fru1tbat 15:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WHO studied at Berklee?

It's a known fact that Elliot Easton studied at Berklee College of Music, whereas this article only refers to Greg Hawkes doing so. I don't recall ever reading that Hawkes went to Berklee, only Easton. It's possible Hawkes did, but does anyone know for sure? I'm gonna see if I can fix this. --63.25.113.207 18:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Note to self: Read current articles on Wikipedia and elsewhere, instead of relying on your memory of the biography Frozen Fire, which you lost sixteen years ago.

I've merely added that Easton also went to Berklee. Sorry for the idiocy. --63.25.113.207 18:29, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:The Cars - Panorama.jpg

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[edit] "Punk scene"?!

The entry begins "The Cars were an American rock band that emerged from the early punk scene in the late 1970s." This is not only unsourced, it's absurd. There is, so far as I can tell (as a veteran of that scene) no connection between The Cars and early Punk -- stylistically or in any other way. The Cars emerged from the early New Wave scene, and anyone who was there will tell you that they were very different scenes. I've changed the first sentence to reflect this. If anyone has any verifiable evidence to the contrary, by all means -- let's see it. Bricology (talk) 04:17, 30 April 2008 (UTC)