Talk:The Black Album (Prince album)
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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Prince Black Album 25677 pressing.jpeg
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BetacommandBot 20:02, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] WP:BLP violations
[edit] Alleged bad ecstasy trip
In accordance with WP:BLP policy, I removed the following text from the speculative section about reasons for the albums withdrawal because it asserts, without citing reliable source, that Prince used Ecstasy and had a certain experience, both of which are potentially libelous claims.
A bad trip experienced by the artist while using the drug ecstasy convinced him that the album was evil or represented an ominous portent, although technically speaking this is misleading as ecstasy is not hallucinogenic.
This material was restored by User:Furrykef in Dec. 2006 after having been removed by User:75.21.218.237 in June 2006. It had been in the article since its creation by User:Mcsweet in April 2005.
I replaced it with a more benign, but still inappropriately uncited claim:
Prince became convinced that the album was evil or represented an ominous portent.
In either case, but especially the first one, a reliable source would need to assert that such a claim has been made by someone. Left alone, it just looks like you've attempted to distance yourself from your own libel by saying it's "rumors and hearsay" originating by unidentified others. That's not good enough. Please assume it is false and do not add the material back in until reliable sources that this (and other speculative explanations for the album's withdrawal) can be found. −mjb (talk) 20:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Allegations by Dr. Fink
I removed the following text from the article because it asserts, without citing reliable sources, that Dr. Fink made extraordinary, damaging claims about Prince. It is potentially libelous to both Dr. Fink and Prince.
In 2001, however, his long time keyboard player Dr. Fink told then-Internet radio host Ernest L Sewell IV, of The Ernest Experience Radio Show, that Prince said he saw the devil. According to Fink, Prince was paranoid due to drugs, and instead of seeing God, as is sometimes claimed by drug users, he had, in fact, thought he saw Satan. Prince told his bodyguard Gilbert Davison this, and Gilbert in turn related it to Fink and possibly other band members. It was this hallucination that had Prince running scared and decided to ditch releasing the album. He even asked for the cassettes of the album back from the band members that are routinely given to them to learn the songs by ear. Fink had later expressed discontent in that he wished he hadn't given it back, or at least made a copy of it for his own personal use.
Please assume it is false and do not add the material back in until reliable sources can be found. I also made minor copy edits to the text (capitalizing Internet, rephrasing the 2nd sentence to make more sense, and replacing a couple of "he" pronouns with "Prince"). The original text was added by User:Ernestsewell a year ago. —mjb (talk) 19:16, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Allegations by Eric Leeds
I removed another instance of the "bad Ecstasy trip" hearsay that was added today by MaJic:
However, in a 1997 radio interview, former band member Eric Leeds revealed that the withdrawal was made due to Prince having a bad experience with Ecstasy.
Again, just like with the 2001 Dr. Fink allegations, this is not permissible on Wikipedia.
1. Eric Leeds may not have said that. You provided no evidence that he did. Without verifiable sources, Wikipedia can't report that Eric Leeds said potentially damaging things about Prince; that's potentially damaging to Mr. Leeds.
2. Even if he did say it, that doesn't make it a fact that was "revealed". Rather, it's an assertion that was made by someone other than Prince. It shouldn't be presented as if it were a counterpoint to all the other rumors.
As it stands, the material violates WP:BLP policies. Please assume it is false and do not add the material back in until reliable sources can be found. —mjb (talk) 03:00, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bootleg/pirate edition of The Black Album under name Kris Dawson
Bonjour, je connaissais partiellement les nombreuses anecdotes liées à la réalisation et à la sortie du fameux "Black Album" de Prince mais vos différents articles m'ont permis d'en apprendre un peu plus. Récemment, je me suis procuré un CD très curieux, en rapport direct avec le sujet qui nous intéresse ici et j'aimerais avoir des informations sur ledit CD. Il s'agit d'un CD sur lequel (face non gravée) sont écrites les informations suivantes:
CANCELLED EVENT OTCD 1 KRIS DAWSON SECT produced by K.Dawson
all titles written by K. Dawson
c + p 1990
OTLEY RECORDS (see inlay for details)
Et, face gravée, bien sûr, THE BLACK ALBUM de PRINCE. Le track listing est le même, même ordre des titres, aucune faute d'orthographe dans ceux-ci et, surprise, deux titres supplémentaires non reconnus (piste 9 et piste 10)
J'ai donc effectué quelques recherches qui ont débouché sur ceci: le nom de KRIS DAWSON SECT semble totalement inconnu. Aucune trace avec plusieurs moteurs de recherches sur ce nom ainsi qu'avec OTLEY RECORDS.
Dès lors, plusieurs questions se posent: KRIS DAWSON SECT existe-t-il? OTLEY RECORDS existent-ils? QUEL EST CET ALBUM? EST-CE UNE COPIE CAMOUFLEE? EST-CE UN VERITABLE ALBUM PIRATE? QUELS SONT CES DEUX TITRES BONUS?
Ces questions existentielles ne m'empêchent pas de dormir mais ne manquent pas de m'interroger, moi qui collectionne disques vinyles et CD depuis pas mal d'années. De ce fait, si quelqu'un peut me donner quelque info sur ces interrogations il recevrait toute ma reconnaissance et ma gratitude. mon mail : francoismitron@yahoo.fr
Bien cordialement, françois —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.165.170.28 (talk) 23:28, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- For those who do not speak French, the above commenter reported that he acquired a CD labeled on one side as "Kris Dawson Sect" and on the other side as "The Black Album" by Prince. Apparently the music on the CD was that of "The Black Album" in its original track listing but there were two additional tracks that the commenter did not recognize. If anyone has information about this recording, please e-mail the commenter at the e-mail address above. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
