Talk:The Australian

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Assessment comments The following comments were left by the assessors: (edit · history · watch · refresh) Part of the description of the newspaper is not very informative for those who do not exactly know the Australian connotations of some terms. For example, I have no idea what a _liberal_ attitude to social issues means. Is this Australian, American or European (English or non-English) terminology? What does this more concretely mean. This kind of expressions should be made more understandable by giving an example of how this shows up concretely.

Removed section "In sections of the Canberra press gallery The Australian is nicknamed "The Government Gazette", due to its anti-Labor stance on key issues and the propensity for details of important government initiatives to miraculously appear on its front page, complete with direct quotes from ministers, before the announcements have been made.^{[citation needed]}" - definitely POV

Contents 1 The newspaper is outspoken in its support of action to improve the lot of Aboriginal Australians.[1] 2 Influental 3 POV 4 "Government Gazette"

[edit] The newspaper is outspoken in its support of action to improve the lot of Aboriginal Australians.[1]

The citation here is not an example of this assertion, as it is muddied by the more consistent Australian theme of criticism of Labor policy and behaviour (of course entirely appropriate in this case.) Find a better citation to support this assertion. The paper does claim to be outspoken in its support of action to improve the lot of Aboriginal Australians, but this is not a neutral POV. --Spamburgler 23:53, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Support. Recurring dreams 04:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Influental

The Australian is described as an influential paper not because of how many people read it but because of who reads it - the political elite and the business class.[1]

Remove this section. Reference doesn't work, and for claims such as these I think we would need a third party citation rather than the paper itself. Recurring dreams 04:32, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Influential? Possibly so. A pretentious, self-important rag for Australia's third-rate aristocrats and Nouveau riche. ZwickauDeluxe 18:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your contribution. Zaxios 14:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV

I put up a POV tag, as the article is extremely biased when it comes to any perceived political leanings of the paper. Cheers, Rothery 10:06, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Government Gazette"

Regarding "The Australian's perceived Liberal-Conservative views have led some to nickname it 'The Government Gazette', especially among some journalists, including sections of the Canberra press gallery." First, this is plainly not NPOV. Second, the SMH article cited does not support the statement. (It says "Perhaps bloggers' repeated reference to the paper as The Government Gazette tweaked the editor on a bad day." There is no reference to the Canberra press gallery or the use of the nickname among journalists.) Third, the insulting nicknames given to The Australian are not of encyclopedic value. So I'm cutting the line. Zaxios 14:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

If there are no objections I'll remove the POV tag as well. Zaxios 14:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)